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  1. SharkBaitBooHaha

    SharkBaitBooHaha Well-Known Member

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    Ask me questions, I will answer them because that's how this works. I will also copy FeatherPaw, but giving my opinion on you. But it'll be criticism, constructive if you will. If you don't wanna be critiqued then don't ask me a question for I'll just be myself in this post.
     
  2. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    Which of the fish in the tank with Nemo in Sydney was your favorite?
     
  3. Trogy

    Trogy Huncho

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    I am pretty sure messages don't count towards your profile in the off-topic category
     
  4. SharkBaitBooHaha

    SharkBaitBooHaha Well-Known Member

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    da starfish, sike it ain't a fish. Mines would be the krill, or shrimp. The one that's being slaved to pedal to make the volcano so that the whole initiation thing happens.

    O, nearly forgot to give you sum critique, I think there's nothin' to critique about you besides that hairline. (I don't know what you look like in real life, so dun take it srsly.)

    Not a question, but i'll still give you some critique. I honestly never heard about you before I got active on the forums. Come on kitbrawl, more than you already do.
     
  5. Trogy

    Trogy Huncho

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    Yeah, trying to get more and more active on kit, despite the fact that I am not the greatest with a sword. Also, I have been with brawl since 2012, playing mostly the gun themed games over time. I.E. WarZ, War, Wildwest, FpsHG, Minestrike.
     
  6. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Inspiration for name? (despite finding nemo I hope.)
    Ever thought of changing it?
    You're trapped on an island with no food or water, but you haven't explored the really spooky jungle yet. Do you risk dying to whatever is in there or try to survive on the beach?
    Opinion of me?
    What got you so interested in kitpvp?
     
  7. SharkBaitBooHaha

    SharkBaitBooHaha Well-Known Member

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    Popped in my head for a gamertag of xbox live. I did use it, but I didn't have xbox-live gold (so don't ask for it) Also, I couldn't put the whole thing. So it was SharkBaitBoHaha, without another o. I really did like it. So I decided to put it on everything. I put it on a minecraft account. Then other things that I will not reveal until I feel like it.

    I do not plan on changing it. But I will get an alt for some OG ign's.

    I would treat it like hawaii, cuz that place is beautiful. I will not try to survive, because death is inevitable when you have no food or water. I'll be grabbing a coconuts off of coconut trees, and sipping it on the beach, with beach clothing. Hopefulling I did bring pre-pared island-ish clothing, so I can really set the mood straight.

    Opinion of you... I don't know, you're always moderating and not chillin' at all. I really can't give you ****, considering that you're the only one moderating kitpvp on my timezone. Maybe if @Canoodle gave me Mod and skip the process of JModeration, I could take that load off of you. But until you finally chill, and not give a damn if a single hacker is on CTF, which was the case for kitbrawl for a while (until you took the duty), I cannot give an opinion where personality is needed to give said opinion. Also I think you're a workaholic (workin' 3 jobs, and moderating a block game for 4 hours?!>!>).

    I was mentioned it by an irl friend. I realize it was the same network that I play CTF on, so I played it. I thought I had to learn some sort of pot/soup based pvp. I couldn't learn pot due to the main network I sweated on combined with anotha', and this was a good option. It was populated, everyone was ez (or so I thought), and I just like kitpvp servers.

    Also my critique for you, enjoy life and chill. I don't think you chill enough for everyone to handle, the only time you're on the server is to moderate (lame), which is good if you wanna be even better friends.
     
  8. Canoodle

    Canoodle Former Staff Manager

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    @SharkBaitBooHaha If you're applying, don't spam to get messages as you are aware, I can see that. This is not the way to get jmod if you think "boosting messages" means this. Post helpful post's.
     
  9. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Dang. You really do remind me of my mom.
     
  10. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    of course it isnt. @SharkBaitBooHaha you need to

    A) Act so mature ur an intense killjoy
    B) Kiss-ass to all the staff team
    C) Obey all the stupid rules that only make the server worse.

    And bing-bada-boom you'll get mod for the remaining 2 weeks that the server is up before it dies completely. gg.
     
  11. EndCxre

    EndCxre Well-Known Member

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    OMG, hahaha i cant stop laughing xD
     
  12. yinscape

    yinscape The Hedgehog Princess

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    *Insert rebellious teenager phase here*

    A: I'm absolutely SHOCK, I mean SHOCKED that we ask prospective moderators to show basic maturity.
    B: Has this worked yet? I'm actually curious. Besides, we have the monthly mod gradings to make sure moderators do their job.
    C: I'm absolutely SHOCK, I mean SHOCKED that we ask prospective moderators to follow the rules they are to enforce.

    Ironically, these "barriers to entry" are here because the players complained about staff quality around this time last year. Interesting.
     
  13. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    When Yinscape has had enough. xD

    But don't off topic posts not count towards your total message count anyway?
     
  14. Trogy

    Trogy Huncho

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    AMA [GONE WRONG]

    I think so, I will test rn and edit to see if they do.

    EDIT: Messages posted in off-topic don't count towards your total messages
     
  15. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    OK let's do a back-and-forth here then

    A: You ask for more than basic maturity. You ask for absolutely no swearing, no complaining if you die/lose no matter what happened, no arguing or really conflict of any kind, just bland opinion-less statements in chat, basically. No such WarZ player exists who is currently going for moderator. And there are many more important factors that are sidelined by maturity such as intelligence, activity, dedication, etc. Not to mention the fact that you currently have ONE WARZ MODERATOR IDIOTS

    B: I've seen mod gradings and well at least back in 2014 a mod could kiss-ass to get the position then barely scrape by when it came to the requirements and not get demoted. I don't know how things are done now but being real friendly with the staff definitely helps.

    C: Any good punishment/justice system should trumpet common sense above rules. Yesterday Wario actually gave 2 sets of full diamond to a hacker team due to protocol. Brawl not only doesn't ban the hackers, their moderators actually help them. A human being is not a robot, they are capable of independent thought. If the protocol/staff rules results in a mod giving loot away to a hacker, I'd hope they would think twice and maybe even think about bettering the system.

    But of course, who am I to say any of this? You are an admin, a member of the wonderful staff team that has contributed to WarZ's overwhelming popularity to this day! (btw not attributing lack of warz players to u specifically, but largely to the staff team as a whole that ur speaking for)
     
  16. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I think you're still getting upset at the wrong people. :'(
     
  17. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    Who are the right people? xD

    And don't worry I'm not upset at Yin I think he does a great job, just the staff team he's defending. And barely even the whole staff team, just a handful of higher-ups who wouldn't save the server when they could've.
     
  18. yinscape

    yinscape The Hedgehog Princess

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    A: I appreciate how highly you think of our staff, but our staff know that what they do is representative of the staff team and Brawl as a whole. They know to stay professional (most of the time!) even when confronted by angry and upset players. The staff know that when it comes to punishing players, it is vital to be clear and concise as to what is allowed and what is not. We take all of those qualities you listed into consideration when choosing staff members, but maturity and the ability to stay calm and collected "under fire" is a very valuable quality especially when dealing with WarZ players.

    B: I believe you are mistaken. I think that those that possess the skills and qualities we are looking for in staff tend to be more friendly and less abrasive in general (and thus, have an easier time making friends!). The teamspeak is a small place; I think its the other way around. Players that are legitimately more friendly with our staff and are more comfortable with interaction tend to be more suited for staff than those that do not.

    C: We wanted to allow more leeway in the past, but players shouted ABUSE and CORRUPTION and blamed the staff for being biased towards friends (Aug 2015). I'm not familiar with all of the details of the situation you describe, but especially in (volatile?) situations like this it is all the more important to follow protocol. Sure, they may have been a "hacker team" as you say, but could you imagine the resulting post (and the responses shouting CORRUPTION and ABUSE!) from the team if we had not followed established protocol? What if they hadn't been hacking? They were still players and we will treat them as such until sufficient proof is found that they are hacking. Most of your third paragraph is entirely based on the assumption that they are a "hacker team" and I'm sure you fully believe so, but to us, they are players just like you until you got banned
    As with most "obvious suggestions/solutions" from the players, there are specific situations where the said solution fails. Holding "common sense above rules" would be a perfect ruleset, if not for the fact that different people have differing opinions and would do different things in the same situation as is very obviously shown in the private staff slack. Bans and punishments are discussed daily and everyone comes to a differing conclusion. If we adopted that, some staff would be more lenient and others would be more strict, and oh look where we're going. Abuseville, population Angry players.



    As for the population of WarZ, I believe that it has several contributing factors: some from the WarZ community itself, some from Brawl, and some from external influences.
     
  19. GlobalistCuck

    GlobalistCuck Well-Known Member

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    A: Well if we are to take myself as an example, my most recent application was denied by Cuddled for "raging in chat" but she didn't give any evidence of this when I asked her about it and I have a feeling the Brawl staff team is generally confusing "raging" and "flaming" with holding a lively discussion and making legitimate complaints about functions of the server. People shouldn't be penalized for speaking their minds (as long as it isn't excessively offensive or harmful to others), and to me it seems like y'all don't really have a lot of choices for WarZ mods but you still you expect 100% killjoyness consistently for 3 months (source: Cuddled). No wonder no one's been accepted in 6 months. However, I hope one day you and Cuddled finally achieve your dream of a super-mature staff team that says nothing, does nothing, and ergo never rages. Success!

    B: I'll concede this point, that does sound logical. And I'll admit, sucking up to Cuddled didn't stop her from denying me for the same BS reasons.

    C: OK first off if you ask your staff team for common sense solutions and half of them have completely different answers to the other half; half your staff team are morons. And so in part C the hacker team I referenced is based around two main hackers; Dean and Bailey. Now ask 90% of WarZ who plays in their timezone and they'll agree, they hack. Across all of Dean and Bailey and their friends' accounts, there must be 30 or more bans for hacking. I've sat with my microphone muted in Dean and Bailey's TS channel (they forgot I was there) and they ADMITTED TO HACKING. I told all this to Wario and he asked "who's Bailey?". Don't tell me this isn't a failure of the staff team, Wario often plays at the same time and me and Dean's team. He then said he'd look into it but no action was taken, obviously. And they told me, they said this to me, that the best part of their hacker team is that they have one legit player, Dolphin, who records so if anyone uses hacks against them, he can record and get them banned. And that's what happened to me, so now I'm banned and the hacker team isn't. So don't you or anyone else in the staff team dare look down at me when I stood up to Dean's team more than any of you have done in nearly a year.

    So really, in a more general sense, you make a good point that a lack of protocol leaves a way for bias and abuse. But the problem is that your protocol can be messed up when WarZ is being run by ONE mod and ONE semi-active manager who doesn't even play the server so doesn't really understand. More staff, more community input, better rules as a whole, perhaps a bit more leeway for differing circumstances and I think we'd be better off. But Cuddled fails at the first hurdle when she refuses to promote any more WarZ mods.

    P.S. Sorry for hijacking yo thread Sharkbait, ily bae.
     
  20. FearTheDoggos

    FearTheDoggos Ex- WildWest/WarZ MOD

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    ik this conversation isn't meant for any1 to join in but honesty its really annoying me :stuck_out_tongue:
    (A) I can name several warz players who don't swear/complain about dieing RN... Sn4x5 (who just got jmod), endcxre, my friend Lung (who attempted for jmod about a year ago but had too many threats and problems from certain people *cough* tallscot *cough*), Boxing, and myself... I lose full d several times a day (I'm a crappy player if you didn't know) but it is a game and there is really no reason why you should be raging our cussing in the first place xD I get mad of course but I don't swear my head off at the people who killed me... what woould that do if I did? nothing. I understand that you have applied several times to become a moderator, but your attitude has completely changed after your last application... That really just gives canoodle an even better reason for why she denied you.

    (B) Mods cannot do that. I know several people who have tried and failed miserably xD you need to be yourself or you will never become friends with people. You can't be someone you are not, its too obvious.

    (C) I don't even know where to begin on this ... Obviously you do not play very much. I have seen at LEAST 10-20 bans a day. This "hacker team" unless you have proof that they are hacking, Wario has no reason to refrain from giving them the diamond. he would probably get in trouble with SMods and Admins for giving certain people items but not giving the different items under that same situation. So he handled the situation fine. Don't hackusate, report.

    sharkbait my questions to you arrrrrrrrrrrrrre

    1 whos your favorite staff member
    2 what is your favorite movie or anime
    3 what is your highest ks on kitbrawl (I'm a god and mine is 3.)
     
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