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Kit idea: Thrower [needs different name]

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by xGhale, Oct 1, 2016.

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  1. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Starting items:
    Stone axe (yes, Jackhammer has a stone axe, but an iron axe would be too strong for combat)
    Kit abilities:
    If you right-click (!) a stone axe, you will hurl it with great might. It flies a certain distance (I'd say about 10 blocks) and then lies there, with nobody being able to pick it up. It then despawnes, unless someone other than the Thrower steps on it. The axe can be bounced off of blocks (e.g. the Gladiator box wall).
    Effect of hitting someone with the axe:
    If you hit someone with the axe, they take 2 hearts of true damage (is damage that is not stopped by armour or Boxer, the only kit able to stop that is Turtle) and 3.5 blocks of knockback. If you hit with the axe, you have 4 seconds of cooldown before you can throw your axe again (it stays in your inventory, it simply spawns another axe while throwing). Missing results in a 7 second cooldown.
    If someone walks onto the axe, they are thrown 5 blocks into the air and take 1 heart of damage plus whatever fall damage they would have taken.
    Pros:
    • Excellent kit for some extra damage in close-quarters fights
    • Nice damage
    • Can be used to knock people off of a tower, or a team member into a ravine
    • Need to refill in a Gladiator match? Just smack the Gladiator away with this and recraft/refill to your heart's content (@Mattyz_ is gonna like this)
    Cons:
    • No anti-fall damage
    • No mobility
    • Can hit teammates with it
    • Only has knockup if someone walks onto it


    Questions/feedback?

    Post below!
    -Sam
     
  2. TheMafias

    TheMafias Something wise

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    A hulk with range?
     
  3. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    I feel like this should be a buff to Viking instead of a new kit completely
     
  4. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    ???
    Explain please.

    Or just remove Viking because it is too overpowered and the only counter is Boxer?
     
  5. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    What if Viking got a nerf, maybe the axe takes regular durability damage?

    I've thought about this for a while, and I think this should make the kit somewhat balanced if it was added to Viking:

    You do not get a starting stone axe, and you only throw axes you craft.
    To throw an axe, you need to shift and right click the axe two times so you don't accidentally throw it.
    Depending on the type of axe you throw, the amount of damage that the axe would normally deal if you weren't the Viking kit will be the amount of true damage you deal (eg: wood axe = 1.5, stone = 2, etc)
    Viking axes take regular durability damage

    The rest of the OP remains the same. How's this sound?
     
  6. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Good.
    Now, about Urgal...
     
  7. Harrryyyy

    Harrryyyy Member

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    Urgal OP! I didn't even think it was that over powered till I got it in kit surprise and took out a team of 3 then finished off the remaining person... In one pot :wink:
     
  8. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Levitator and grenadier are rather similar to this. Neither of those kits are commonly used, so I wouldn't be surprised if this kit doesn't get used in-game often, either.
     
  9. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Oh I'd be abusing the hell out of this :wink:
     
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  10. Turmac

    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    I say you start with a gold axe, and every axe does different amounts of damage when thrown.
    Wood: 1 heart
    Gold: 2 hearts
    Stone: 2.5 hearts
    Iron: 3.5 hearts
    Diamond: 6 hearts (Because likely hood of getting diamond axe)
     
  11. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    (sorry4bump)
    Diamond axe is too much, you're able to use it 3-4 seconds after the throw again (if you hit). That's pretty nasty, and 6 hearts of true damage in a full iron fight is utter overkill.
    That being said, I agree with @NooMatt that maybe Viking could be nerfed and get this idea brought in.
     
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