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Discussion in 'Hardcore Games' started by OptimaI, Jun 3, 2017.

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  1. OptimaI

    OptimaI Member

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    Came back to see what happened and I still have all my kits, but some were removed!? I payed money for those like wtf. Also can't even play a game because the servers are dead...
     
  2. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Some kits were removed because there were just too many. 121 kits were way too confusing for new players, which was a big issue considering there is no-one who plays HG regularly anymore with the exception of staff and HP_Uranium. You did also agree to this, if you bought your kits while you were on Brawl: "All packages are subject to change at any time." McPvP had similar terms of service as well.

    If everyone who complained about the lack of players actually played HG, we'd be the most popular server on the network.
     
  3. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Honestly socool said it best. I'm getting a little tired of seeing threads like these pop up from people who "just came back to check in on things". Where tf were you when we began making changes and needed input? XD you can't be mad if you don't play, tbh.
     
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  4. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Exactly - its kinda hard to consult the community on updates when there's only one community member, who'll probably be a staff member soon anyway.
     
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  5. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    First off, welcome back!
    Yes, a number of kits had to be removed due to heavy imbalance issues and new players not being able to understand half of them. There were a number of kits such as Necro that were a) practically useless and b) hard to understand.
    There were also kits such as a Anchor that are ridiculously strong in the right hands (and I fear I can claim to be the reason for this one), or Kangaroo and Grappler that were just plain overpowered since you really couldn't do anything.
    Of course, some of the removed kits were honestly fairly balanced, such as Toolmaster, but I'm sure the kit list will be getting a decent rework soon!
     
  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I'm open to any feedback on the kit list, by the way. This thread is just a complaint and there's not really much I can do with it, but if you have any suggestions of kits you'd like to see added and why, let me know and I'll see if I can get them back for you. @OptimaI
     
  7. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Exactly, but I'm more upset about the fact that this will not change, no matter which server we're talking about. Warz, Party, War, Wildwest, there are 3 truths that will never change.
    1) There will never be a consensus on what to do with the server
    2) staff will always be accused of not doing their jobs
    3) players will always call for change, then demand it be changed back (or consequently find some fault in said change)
     
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  8. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Since I have time this morning I'll get started!
     
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  9. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    This is why we shouldn't follow community feedback exactly, but take it into consideration when we decide future updates. For example, if a bunch of community members were asking for sheriffs to be removed from Wild West because cuffs were OP, we could listen to this feedback and instead nerf cuffs instead of removing sheriffs.

    I'm all for community feedback, but it'll never be listened to word-for-word unfortunately.

    Get to work boi
     
  10. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Sadly so I'm afraid... Although I can have my moment of gloating and say that, for the most part, Party knows what it's doing and we're all on the relatively same page with it. :smile:
     
  11. EmperorTrump45

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    This is coming from a guy who has not played a single HG game in a long time and has not made a single forum post until now, years after HG's "glory days" were over. So you don't contribute, say absolutely nothing when discussions about removing kits were going on, and then come back and complain when changes (which you agreed to when you bought assets from mcpvp/brawl) were made. Nice.
     
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  12. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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