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Why did you stop playing Wild West?

- I have been offered the chance at a new hard drive for my computer by my dearest and beloved father, but have since declined. Wild West has been too stale for my liking. I don't even have to play the game months after leaving to realize that it will feel just as stale.

What made you quit?

- Losing a vital part of my PC.

What would have to happen to have you come back?

- In this order;

) Get a new hard drive.

)Reinstall MC and Discord.

) Actually get good at the game.

)Brawl actually pull through on the administration side of things.

 

The established players are playing the game how they best play it. The new players can't learn without being challenged by the older players. If we all are “at blame" and stop slaying the noobies, there is no end goal for the game. You can't possibly learn and adapt to your situation. Sure, you can teach new players, as long as they have other established players to take what they have learned and utilize it in the field. Otherwise, it's just useless junk.

The established players are not to blame. Find a balance between noob friendly and experience friendly.

 

These are slightly different questions with the same answers, really.

I stopped playing Wild West because it's utterly boring to me. The fun part of Wild West is the fights, but there's a few issues which stop fights from ever really happening.

Firstly, you need money to get into any decent fights. To get enough money to get into fights, you need to be processing drugs for hours. Considering processing drugs is just afking at a rebel base, it's not the most intriguing nor exciting gameplay a server can offer. Ever since PvP was removed from mines, mining ores is also just afking (just with no risk whatsoever this time).

Another problem with making money is sheriffs. All a sheriff needs to do to stop a solo player from processing is appear at the rebel base. They don't even need to be any good at the game. They can be the absolute worst player on the server, and they will still stop you from processing, because they can come back 3 minutes later with their free gear and sometimes a team of sheriffs and will kill you. Fail again? They'll come back 3 minutes later. And again, and again.

Back on things that stop people from fighting - you pretty much always need to be in a large team to do this. Whenever I killed someone at a rebel base, I always had to run and log out or else I'd know I'd die. If I didn't do this, a sheriff would've came along and killed me, or someone from the monopoly team (worsened by the fact that there's someone on there targeting me, too) would come along and kill me. It's just free loot and free money to come and kill bad players who go rogue, meaning you have to be good or you have to log, or you'll likely die.

Not only this, but the map is way too large. The map is 14k by 14k and there's sometimes only 5-10 players online, do the maths and the population density of the server is 20 times worse than that of the Sahara Desert - I know we're going for realism here but that's a bit too much.

And finally, the monopoly teams mean that you have to fight sheriffs. This is often frustrating, since they usually cuff and usually come back (my record is a sheriff coming back 56 times, very fun to fight indeed). Due to monopoly teams, there's no fights between bandits (which are considerably fairer, because each team has access to the same gear).

The lag doesn't make fighting much of a smooth experience either, really.

• Getting gear should be considerably quicker (how it was in the old economy was absolutely perfect, I have no idea why they decided to change it), so there's less grinding and more fighting. Personally I don't really care if it devalues diamond armour - I just want to actually have fun. Preferably not via the wonderful voting rewards idea on Random's rework, I absolutely despise that idea more than anything.
• Making money should be more interesting. This can be achieved in a few ways:
  • Make the map smaller, so more fights happen, causing it all to be more interesting. I'm talking about one town, two mines, and one rebel base. The current size was almost too big when we had 120 players, and now we have one twelfth of that amount, so downsizing the map by a factor of 5 isn't as drastic as it seems.
  • Completely revamp drug processing and means of making money. I have a few ideas which are involved in my Wild West rework thread soon™, but they're not finalised just yet.
  • Ideally, a bit of both.
• Completely revamp the sheriff system - the guild ideas are one of the few things in Random's rework that I like, so that should do just nicely.
• Remove the rogue system, so you don't have to log out as soon as you get a kill.
• Add a reasonable team cap and add a considerably large disadvantage to cross-teaming. I'm talking processing speeds should be 10% of what they usually are if two different teams are processing the same drug.

But overall, here's the main thing Wild West must do if I'm gonna come back any time soon and that's living up to how awesome it could be. When the gamemode was first announced, it was described like this:

This is what got me very excited for Wild West. In fact, Wild West was released after I quit Brawl and was permbanned from the forums - this description of what Wild West was supposed to be is what made me return to play the gamemode. To say the least, it was a disappointment.

If the gamemode receives a very good rework (and, in my opinion, the current one Random has proposed is not good enough), which lives up to how it was first announced and really fills the potential of an open-world, RPG server based off of Red Dead Redemption, then that's when I'll start playing Wild West again. Not before, not after.

I intentionally didn't go into too much detail because I don't want to throw around random ideas - a rework should be loads of ideas fitted together so they work together fluently, and I still need to finish brainstorming some stuff before I post my version of a Wild West rework. But this post is a good summary to what I want in Wild West and what a good rework, in my eyes, will entail.

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This completely removes the progression aspect, which is one of the large parts of Wild West.

I'd be more in favour of making the sheriff rank more progressive instead.