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  1. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    I could have never guessed me learning how to jitter click and aim would lead to this :/
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  2. Touchie

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    I am honestly disappointed at the staff team right now. That staff member had no proof of you autoclicking at all. You killed the staff member and he got salty and banned you for autoclicking it's actually so pathetic and it annoys me. If staff could at least stop false banning super legit people it'd be a lot better. Another good player was also banned called SwordsArtOnline. Staff had no evidence of this person cheating at all. But here's the thing, He got a combo on a staff member called removers and that staff member got a bit salty and got staff to ban SwordsArtOnline. Everytime you combo removers you get banned within 5 minutes because he gets in ts in a really salty mood and cries for a mod to get on and ban the legit person. I was playing super legit 2 months ago and it was a day after i was unbanned and when i was playing in the ffa arena removers logged on and i comboed him in the middle of the map and killed him and 5 minutes after that i was permanently banned by a staff member for KillAura Aim assist when i was playing super legit. Now the only option to stop this is to allow Screensharing. DryMayonnaise was banned for autoclicking and autoclickers can be very hard to find on this server as it isn't blatantly unlike any hacks. I'm not trying to hate on the staff team i am just disappointed and i want them to make brawl a better place for the legit people. I don'y enjoy brawl like i used too anymore because everytime i get into that ffa arena i think a staff member will falsely ban me like they did 2 months ago. It's something i don't want to go through again. And most of the staff team are not active. This is why kitbrawl is so toxic it's because barely any staff are on to manage the chat and ban the cheaters.
     
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  3. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    First off, staff do not ban just because another staff member is mad. Secondly, we have a way of checking a players cps. A mod caught him getting above 20cps multiple times resulting in a ban. If he thinks this is false, he can give a reply to the question on his appeal of why he is hitting 20cps. It isn't possible to hit 20cps jitterclicking. It's hard enough to hit it butterfly clicking.

    If you have a good reason for your 20cps, reply to the appeal. If you don't, you can always just re-apply in a month to get unbanned.
     
  4. Grenzo

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    "learning" Two staff members quoted you had 20cps in game. If you still believe it's false, as @GetShadowRealmed stated, you're free to appeal.
     
  5. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    maybe don't cheat lol, you admitted to it aswell. but besides that, just appeal your ban and show proof of you being able to hit over 20cps often, accurately aswell since you were able to do that.
     
  6. Touchie

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    At least i can admit, Some people don't even admit like i did. And i don't even cheat anymore so maybe you shouldn't say "Maybe don't cheat" and it wasn't funny so maybe you shouldn't say "lol" either. DeKrah is an example he was a blatant cheater and he got banned and he still wouldn't admit.
     
  7. Grenzo

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    Blatant cheaters don't need to admit.
    JayOG had a point, don't complain if you had the option not to cheat but you did cheat. Not the staff's fault. :/
     
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    That isn't really what i am ranting about. It's also the fact that i keep getting falsely banned and it's for KillAura Aim assist and it mainly only happens when i combo a staff member. And since when was brawl able to see players cps. I autoclicked blatantly back in the days with 40 cps and i wasn't even banned for several months LOL so i don't believe you at all.

    I didn't mention your name, I am speaking to JayOG and i will not reply to you.
     
  9. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    1. I have 0 TS logins this month and I don't use TS to get any Mod online.
    2. If you combo me there is a clear way to tell the difference between someone who is legit and combo'ing me and who isn't it is extremely obvious to tell the difference.
    3."Super legit 2 months ago" - ok sure that is why in your appeal you uploaded a video of yourself trying to prove yourself yet even in that video you used reach against a different player.
    4. You shouldn't really care about false bans if they are false you can easily prove yourself if you are legit and tell the trust you don't even have to record if you can explain yourself...
    5. Kit doesn't have much staff correct but the main issue on Kit isn't the chat the chat is very highly Moderated and can be easily Moderated outside of game if players use /chatreport the issue is all the GC users and other hackers on KitBrawl.

    The fact of you using an autoclicker with 40CPS "Months ago" doesn't really disprove we can check CPS now considering again that was "Months ago" and that is in the past and we only recently got the ability to check players CPS.
     
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  10. Grenzo

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    Was here to know what the problem is, and why, but okay.
     
  11. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    You just did xD
    Also the being able to see autoclicking happened a long time ago. We've managed to catch a lot due to it.
     
  12. Touchie

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    So you're saying i was using reach in that video?? Wow you are very stupid i am going to take a look at that video right now LOL i am done with you. Because i used a crappy free ghost client against you like 5 months ago you still think i am cheating. It's so pathetic you probably even think DeKrah is more legit than me.

    Doesn't mean you have to respond to me. Please stay out of this and let the people i mentionted in the msg handle it.

    But i blatantly used a macro a year ago and staff didn't catch me until 5 months ago when i admitted or maybe longer.
     
  13. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    Dont take this the wrong way but that staff member should also be temp banned for teaming and going against a rule. Other than that Where is his proof of me doing so? I am geting ganked out by 5 people and start butterflying my butt off and souping as best as possible. I will get a screen shot later of a click tester since I do not have a screen recorder and show my files, downloads and whatever you need for me to show I do not auto click.

    jay I dont really cheat I say it as a joke :/. Plus if you are getting 5v1ed wouldnt you butterfly and its not hard to be accurate if you are cornered with this group attacking so.
     
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  14. Grenzo

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    I don't have to respond, but I wil.

    You also said you're going to take another look at the video, yeah, umm there's a mistake. If you know you're legit, you don't need to look back. Also, if you know you're 100% legit, appeal. Or else I don't know why you're trying to defend the fact that we still think you cheat // used to cheat. What's your point in this whole thread? Once you get what you want, what are you gonna do? Are you just here to insult Staff, or actually appeal? If you're not gonna apeal, don't rant.

    Butterflying has nothing to do with it.
    By the way, just to help, screenshots won't help. As staff might think you just turned off your cheat or purposely clicked slower. If you want to fix this, just appeal.
     
  15. RaZeragon

    RaZeragon TC Co-Leader | Catgirl Enthusiast

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    If you want, I can pull the multiple screenshots of 20+ cps. He did not seem to have an autoclicker active all the time, and appeared to toggle it on at certain points (unless he installed an autoclicker that varied his cps for him). He often dropped to 9 cps and then spiked all the way up to 22 cps.

    22 Clicks Per Second.


    I'm no master mouse clicker myself, but on a good day the most I can hope for is 9 cps. I've seen other players reach 11, 12, 13, all the way up to 15 on short bursts. But never have I seen someone legit who can click 22 times in one second, and then do it again a couple seconds later.

    If he has a good explanation as to how "jitter clicking" (which in itself is a silly term) allowed him to reach 20+ clicks per second multiple times while also averaging around 17 cps in long lasting fights, I'm all ears because I could definitely use that finger stamina. Even if he was butterfly clicking, that's damn near impossible to consistently hit 20+ cps.

    Note, jitter clicking involves one finger, whereas butterfly clicking involves 2 fingers.

    DryMayonnaise has yet to give me an explanation as to how he was able to click 22 times per second, and frankly, I'm quite looking forwards to it seeing as if he is legit, I could definitely use some tips on how to improve my cps.

    I'll post all of the screenshots I took tomorrow if you want.


    Yes, he did kill me multiple times. That's how I got suspicious of his cps seeing as he was able to get hits on me that I've only seen from other suspicious players or proven hackers.

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    Another good player was also banned called SwordsArtOnline. Staff had no evidence of this person cheating at all. But here's the thing, He got a combo on a staff member called removers and that staff member got a bit salty and got staff to ban SwordsArtOnline.[/QUOTE]
    I banned him as well, and seeing as I thought he was blatant enough to justify a ban without any recording (and I also thought Removers had recorded, although that is no excuse for me not recording). It was my mistake, and he is now unbanned, although if he keeps playing with his head following the other players' movements exactly, he'll be banned again in no time.

    [QUOTE="Touchie, post: 865847, member: 37870"]

    DryMayonnaise was banned for autoclicking and autoclickers can be very hard to find on this server as it isn't blatantly unlike any hacks.[/QUOTE]
    How would you know more about our hacker detection system than the mod who banned the hacker himself? If anything, autoclickers who crank up their settings to 20+ cps are some of the easiest hackers to catch.

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    I'm not trying to hate on the staff team i am just disappointed and i want them to make brawl a better place for the legit people.[/QUOTE]
    Well I don't think the legit players would like playing against an autoclicker, but maybe that's just my opinion.

    Well wouldn't it make sense for a mod to fight the person to determine if they were hacking? Don't just assume it's the staff being salty about losing. We want to be sure our bans are 100% correct, so we usually go in for some head-on experience.

    Why would we tell the public explicitly about new hacker detection programs or how they work? That's like giving a robber a map of your apartment and leaving the door unlocked with milk and cookies on the table. The autoclicker detection system itself is relatively new, so that would explain why you went for so long without being caught.

    Edit: I hate Brawl's formatting
     
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  16. Touchie

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    I'm not insulting staff, I am just fed up that they false ban a lot of legit players. It's ridiculous and i didn't create this thread. DryMayonnaise did, And no idc if anyone thinks i cheat if that's what they think then that's ok i'm not even going to prove them wrong anymore it's not worth any of my time.

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    Yes, he did kill me multiple times. That's how I got suspicious of his cps seeing as he was able to get hits on me that I've only seen from other suspicious players or proven hackers.
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    Another good player was also banned called SwordsArtOnline. Staff had no evidence of this person cheating at all. But here's the thing, He got a combo on a staff member called removers and that staff member got a bit salty and got staff to ban SwordsArtOnline. [/QUOTE]
    I banned him as well, and seeing as I thought he was blatant enough to justify a ban without any recording (and I also thought Removers had recorded, although that is no excuse for me not recording). It was my mistake, and he is now unbanned, although if he keeps playing with his head following the other players' movements exactly, he'll be banned again in no time.
    [QUOTE="Touchie, post: 865847, member: 37870"]

    DryMayonnaise was banned for autoclicking and autoclickers can be very hard to find on this server as it isn't blatantly unlike any hacks.[/QUOTE]
    How would you know more about our hacker detection system than the mod who banned the hacker himself? If anything, autoclickers who crank up their settings to 20+ cps are some of the easiest hackers to catch.
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    QUOTE="Touchie, post: 865847, member: 37870"]
    I'm not trying to hate on the staff team i am just disappointed and i want them to make brawl a better place for the legit people. [/QUOTE]
    Well I don't think the legit players would like playing against an autoclicker, but maybe that's just my opinion.

    Well wouldn't it make sense for a mod to fight the person to determine if they were hacking? Don't just assume it's the staff being salty about losing. We want to be sure our bans are 100% correct, so we usually go in for some head-on experience.

    Why would we tell the public explicitly about new hacker detection programs or how they work? That's like giving a robber a map of your apartment and leaving the door unlocked with milk and cookies on the table. The autoclicker detection system itself is relatively new, so that would explain why you went for so long without being caught. [/QUOTE]
    I'm not even going to read all that. I can't be bothered and i am tired so pce i'm going to sleep, Enjoy the beef.
     
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  17. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    2? where was the second staff? Ive been banned for "Kill aura" on my alt and was unbanned right away since I am a known legit player :/ Now you are gonna say I cheat? I've played this server since 2013 and not once have i cheated on here and nor will I ever. This is like the time I was banned for "Anti knockback" false :/ I will prob have to make an appeal next month since my first one wasnt really nice. I'll admit my appeal today was childish and I will redo it next month with proof that i do not auto click.
     
  18. Removers

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  19. GetShadowRealmed

    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    Then it wasn't out then or you would have been banned
     
  20. Touchie

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    delayed hits ;3 but idc. You've had way more sketchy hits than that even in your videos.
     
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