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Idea Can we nerf or remove the tank kit in KitBrawl?

Discussion in 'KitBrawl' started by Dat_Broker, Nov 27, 2017.

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  1. Dat_Broker

    Dat_Broker New Member

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    I think we should nerf or remove the tank kit in KitBrawl. The tank kit may take some time to get, I don't think the time it takes to get it is enough to get the kit. It has full diamond armor and the same sword the regular kits have, the only "weakness" it has is slowness. It doesn't give the player a disadvantage at all. It won't matter how many hits anyone gets on the person with the tank kit, they'll always see themselves run out of soups before the other person. I think we should seriously nerf this kit or get it removed because it is way too overpowered, the only way you could potentially kill someone with it is teaming up on them, and that isn't allowed.


    Here's a video of how stupid it is, plus the player's connection giving him delayed knockback and hits make it even worse to fight him. It's way too overpowered dealing the same damage as everyone else but taking less. It doesn't even take skill to get it, it just takes some time. You can clearly see we're having a fairly even match with me getting more combos yet I still lose so much soup while he probably hasn't even used up an entire hotbar.
    I recommend getting a diamond sword with sharpness 1 and downgrade the armor a bit. Every kit has a significant weakness against the others. The ninja get has very little armor and a weaker sword, the archer kit has less armor and a downgraded sword, the tank kit only has slowness. Is that really a weakness that affects the players "pvp"? I've sort of picked up on even thinking slowness affects knockback. My friend had gotten the kit and fought me in it and to me, it seemed like he took less knockback with it. It has the same sword as the fighter kit (or whatever the default kit is called) and takes less damage. That is my suggestion.
     
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  2. Jeaton

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    I agree, when I use the tank kit, it's impossible for anyone to beat me. I could get infinite killstreaks if I wanted. When others are in the tank kit, the only way to beat them is if I get in the tank kit myself, or everyone simultaneously targets them (sometimes that's counter-productive because the bad players give the more soup).
     
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  3. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    I would have to agree on this tank is very over powered. Most people that use tank are laggy and get these annoying delayed hits that make it hard to kill them. I know melee can kill tank at times but it is hard and rare since most people in tank target the people who aren't as good at conserving soup and get on these high kill streaks that make them close to impossible to end unless they lag out (Rarely happens) or they forget to soup (Almost never happens). With tank kit I understand that you need to be a higher leveled and have so many credits but that isn't impossible to get. Also people that use tank kit might run into a ladder area and try to lure you up there so they have that advantage making it hard to escape and an almost certain death. In both maps there is an area for this.
     
  4. DeKrah

    DeKrah Ex-KitBrawl JMOD

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    tank is ez fam. it gets slowness 2 and u get spd 1. get gud and u can combo the nerds that use it
     
  5. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    Depends on who you are fighting to be quite honest.
     
  6. RiskyRuskii

    RiskyRuskii Well-Known Member

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    Almost impossible to beat when you start destroying them and they goin the stair way so it's a 1x2 and they Crit you out, and if you don't go to fight they will /spawn and get more soup
     
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  7. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    I agree tank needs a nerf but could we get some suggestions on how to nerf it without it being pretty much brute or too weak for it to be playable.

    I've made a thread on a suggestion before here: https://www.brawl.com/threads/69472/ would like to have some kind of feedback and other ideas on how to balance them out.
     
  8. Dat_Broker

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    Make it a sharpness 1 iron sword and decrease armor to diamond chest and legs
     
  9. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    Then it wouldn't be a "Tank" would it? The point is to take less damage from people, I agree with a sharp 1 iron sword however then the problem is with brute being pretty much the same but just a little bit weaker in one case but stronger in another.

    We need to make it so Tank is still strong and can handle a lot of damage but doesn't give as much damage as it currently does and at the same time not make it a copy of brute. If that means nerfing/changing both of these kits it seems worth it in my opinion.
     
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  10. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    If tank is such a struggle use medic :stuck_out_tongue:
    But seriously you could change tank and brute a bit.
    Tank: iron sword sharp 3 or a diamond sword with sharp 1 or no enchant and full diamond (Slowness 2)
    Brute:iron helmet and boots with diamond chest and legs (Like removers suggested) and a iron sword with sharp 1 or 2

    I feel like this might be a little more balanced but not sure.
     
  11. RiskyRuskii

    RiskyRuskii Well-Known Member

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    Full reg diamond is a must imo, otherwise it wouldn't be tank, definitely change the sword tho
     
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  12. DeKrah

    DeKrah Ex-KitBrawl JMOD

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    make it slowness 3 like what it used to be, and maybe a shrp1 diamond sword
     
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  13. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    I like the idea of that but, wouldn't that mess with the knock back more?
     
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  14. Touchie

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    That would just mess up the kb even more.

    Maybe we should change the chestplate to iron prot 3 or something, Or add weakness to tank which would result in doing lesser damage. Or we can change the sword to iron sharp 1. I don't really know I'll think about this and if i come up with any ideas ill let you know.
     
  15. Jeaton

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    Excellent point DeKrah! Your only problem is when someone who's half decent at soup is in it! Or, better yet, if I'm in it! You already can't beat me when I'm in a regular kit, have fun trying to do it when I'm in the most unbalanced kit on the server ;D
     
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  16. Dat_Broker

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    When you crit a person in the tank kit with the ninja kit, which is sharpness 2 strength 1, it still only does 1 and a half hearts and that is really overpowered.
     
  17. SharkBaitBooHaha

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    Slowness 8 is the only way to go. Slowness 1-4ish tank can still combo for some reason. But if we do give it slowness 8 has to be sharp 3 diamond sword. To still keep it somewhat even.

    Sarcasm killed the cat.
     
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  18. Jeenss

    Jeenss Ex-Raid Mod

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    What about adding kb 1 or 2 to the sword?
     
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  19. Touchie

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    You can't even move with slowness 5 or higher xD
     
  20. DeKrah

    DeKrah Ex-KitBrawl JMOD

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    sorry who are you? randyy
     
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