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Unfair Justice | Potential Cheaters

Discussion in 'Raid' started by hattvr, Dec 4, 2017.

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  1. hattvr

    hattvr Member

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    Hey,

    Alright, so I don’t even know where to begin, so I will just put everything in this thread that I feel is important. This post is going to be mostly on team SuB from Raid, and players that I will be mentioning throughout this thread will include WurschtBanane, CookiElf, and Ritzy.

    First of all, I’d like to begin with the “free passes”, so to speak, members on team SuB are given. One notable member on my team, Sleeq, was messing around at a warp of WurschtBanane’s a while ago. He was putting water buckets from high above the ground, apparently made a “lag machine”, and he was unjustly banned for it. When you take the overall view of the situation, you can see that Sleeq was banned for creating “lag” that was barely even noticeable. I understand why Sleeq was banned, and I feel like it is totally a valid reason to be banned, but what I don’t understand is the part where WurschtBanane isn’t banned for pretty much breaking the server. WurschtBanane used TNT on the server and was doing whatever he was doing, and he pretty much BROKE the server for a couple of days, it was unplayable, and it definitely affected everyone on the server. WurschtBanane didn’t even get a warning for his actions, much less a ban. I confronted a staff member (Ritzy // also on his team) about this, who just said it wasn’t his fault the server broke. Now if it wasn’t his fault the server broke because of something he did, there should be no reason why Sleeq was banned, if you’re going to ban someone for creating lag, at least dont discriminate depending on who the player is.

    Second, there is a member of team SuB who has an unfair advantage over other players. I have reason to believe that there is a potential xrayer on their team, and two possible victims are WurschtBanane and CookiElf. I wanted to know for sure though, so people wouldn’t just say I was “hacksuating”, so I decided to make a decoy chest with nothing inside of it, it is the easiest way to find out if someone has xray or not. It was at an XP warp of mine, and sure enough, WurschtBanane ended up coming there and they found the hidden chest which was not near the general area of my built warp. The only thing fishy was that they said they found the chest by luck, but they only mined in the direction of the hidden chest, interesting huh? I took screenshots of what it looked like while I was being raided, but screenshots are apparently not a valid source of evidence. I told Ritzy (a moderator) about this and he logs off or went into vanish mode a couple of moment after I told him, didn’t even care to reply to me. Tuumai was the player who found the chest, but I have reason to believe that he was in a call or something and was told the general direction the decoy was. Tuumai said he recorded everything and he would be willing to share the video to me if I wanted, but when I replied to him and stated that I DID want to see the video, he said he changed his mind (I know right, why would you offer to send me the video if you were just going to say no anyways, I think he might’ve thought I would change my mind if he said he had evidence… but okay). He also said he recorded the audio too, so I would love to watch the video where he finds my chest WITH audio. By this time, I was fairly sure there was someone on their team who had xray, so I decided I’d make a final warp to conclude my hypothesis, I put a hidden chest in a lava pool in a cave, with a bunch of goodies. Normal people would come, find the cave, and just say that they tracked the person while he was mining or something. Now nobody would think it would be obvious to look in the EXACT location where my hidden chest was, but according to WurschtBanane, it was pretty obvious my chest was there. Not only that, I had Ritzy come to the warp and check it out. He, at first, said the chest (the only thing that was there) especially looked xrayed, but then Tuumai butted in our conversation and mentioned WurschtBanane being the one who raided it, and surprisingly enough, Ritzy stopped replying to me again. He was in vanish mode so I wasn’t able to just message him straight up. I have reason to believe that Ritzy protects his teammates unfairly from accusations and bans. I had other mods come and check it out as well (AnonymousGalaxy and Chilled), and they said it definitely looks like xray but they won’t be sure until they check the evidence thoroughly, so they forwarded the evidence/info to a SMOD (Eil), and I’m still waiting on his response. I’ve learned my lesson, to just message a different staff member instead, because it seems like Ritzy isn’t capable of what he is meant to do.

    Lastly, you may ask, where does CookiElf come into the picture? Well, I’ve noticed that EVERY time I’m being raided, she is online, and it’s just kinda sketchy. If WurschtBanane isn’t the cheater, I can GAURANTEE it must be CookiElf who directs her teammates where to go. I don’t really have any evidence of this, so she isn’t necessarily my main concern. It would all make sense if she was the one who xrays, but not directly, so she can tell them where to go, and they would just mine in the general area they are told.

    To conclude, I am positively sure there are players on the server who have an unfair advantage and think themselves superior over others. My message from all this is that there are cheaters on the server who are most likely being protected by a mod who also plays on the server, so there is nothing I can really do, so I just want to leave this in the hands of someone who can actually help. I have attached some screenshots as evidence for some of the “claims” I’ve made. Also, I wouldn't waste my time writing all this over an empty chest for no reason. This is a serious matter, and if you're not going to take the post seriously, don't bother giving input.

    Link to "evidence"/Things I think might be important:
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cTnvmTHCOsp_cqjd5cwphjykoRg6r_CU

    Thanks,

    Hatter :smile:
     
  2. jum

    jum Well-Known Member

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    think this should be moved to a report thread or something

    Edit: my opinion on this is that cooki most likely doesn't xray as she never is in a call with us and as you said she may have been directing us toward a chest, however I don't think this is the case.
     
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  3. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    First of all lets start with that lag machine thing. Yeah Sleeq said even him self that he was banned for a reason... But i don't think using TNT is ban able in raid. Plus how would he ever knew that using TNT would break the server. And that decoy chest we found was me. We tracked you to the xp place, i thought i recorded it but i didn't. I'm pretty sure @UltraPunisher has video of that with audio cause he was streaming at that time. And I heard your team was there. I was getting my stuff to fight you guys, when i warped there, there was no one. While i was waiting you guys there, i was mining the area to spent my time and making it easier to gang you guys and possibly quick drop. Every single raid i track or someone else tracks, i check the lava pools for possibly chest. I don't think it's good idea hackusate people in forums, if you would have good proof that some of my teammates are possibly xraying, I'm pretty sure our teammates would already got banned.
     
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  4. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Is there a tldr?
     
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  5. jum

    jum Well-Known Member

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    Hatter believes that sleeq shouldn't have gotten banned if wurscht didnt as they both created something that had affected the server negatively and that either wurscht or cooki xrays as they have found two chests that were hidden
     
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  6. CalledRainer

    CalledRainer Well-Known Member

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    This is going to be a juicy thread.
     
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  7. xGhale

    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    While my thoughts on X-Rayers are going to stay just that - my thoughts, I will say that it was VERY well known that every PvP-hunting gamemode (BR, Raid, HG) had an explosion issue. This was well known and I personally feel as if WurschtBanane should have been punished for that since he was probably part of the reason for the Raid crashes.
    PM me if you want my salt on X-Rayers, but otherwise, that'd be it.
     
  8. Tuumai

    Tuumai Raid Sub-Manager

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    It just could just been anyone else using that TNT and now knowing the server will get broken. That bug has been in raid before.
     
  9. hattvr

    hattvr Member

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    Okay well Sleeq didn't know WATER BUCKETS would lag the server either. And it barely even did make the server lag (I couldn't notice the difference), yet he still got banned and had to serve his time...
     
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  10. Ritzy

    Ritzy Est. 2014
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    1. I never banned Sleeq for lagging out the server or anything of that matter.
    2. I never ignored any messages of yours
    3. I went to the warp and honestly didnt understand what I was looking at so left.
    You already know that I have told you to go to @Eil about this, I've even told sleeq as well... Personality I find that hard to tell whether its xray or not as its a chest under lava and thats all. I'm not about to ban someone for something I am unsure about.

    If you want to report it please speak to staff team ingame or go to https://www.brawl.com/report

    Nothing else needed to be said on this thread, Locked.
     
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