Autobans and a Temporary Fix

So we basically have people complaining about not having enough staff and now people asking for a major part of the punishment system to be removed.

Great.

 

Thats not what he is saying.

 

Did you even read my post before devolving back to an argument that I tried to settle long ago, something that I didn't see as too relevant on your staff app which was where it was brought up?

Anyways, on the thread topic - personally the BrawlBot does a lot of work and should not be removed due to it detecting the problematic blatant late-night hackers well.

 

BrawlBot is what automatically bans players. If you only have the anticheat that doesn't ban, what's the point again?

 

Alright lemme just go through some ghostclient bans - most of them were assumed to be legit for the longest time.

Also no need to spread your salt onto my lawn, calm down.

 

What qualifies as regular and trusted? What if it turns out that a regular and trusted player is hacking? I was never a fan of "They've been here longer, so there's no way they could be hacking" if that were put I place, it would show bias towards banning players. Regarding bans, everyone should be banned without a pretense or bias towards them. False bans are bound to happen, mods are only human and there is no perfect solution.

Furthermore, brawls anti cheat isn't perfect, however it is more reliable then most servers I've played on. I never really got the whole false banning thing because I was never false banned. (I was legitimately banned before though) improvements could be made, but I don't think it's a major issue at the moment.

Edit: Screensharing would help, there are loopholes around screensharing, but that's no reason not to conduct them. Maybe the mod could ask for a screenshare, if the person in question refuses then the ban would be based on the evidence gathered in game.

 

Anyone who is a regular and gets autobanned will appeal anyways.

If someone is using a ghost client, or something similar, an anti cheat is certainly not going to be able to accurately detect it. The anticheat is really only good for detecting extremely blatant hackers. This idea just makes it easier for regulars who don't necessarily have to deal with false autos, as well as saving staff time doing appeals.

 

Autoban should be disabled after a certain playtime. Making and waiting for appeals is a pain.

 

They'll get unbanned when they decide to appeal. If you haven't noticed, everyone gets unbanned from autobans if they appeal, it's just a matter of if someone gets to it before the ban runs out.

The staff team is already stretched perilously thin, so there's no way that the staff team would have enough resources to start following a screensharing protocol. Furthermore, because it goes against the morality of a few higher-up staff members, the idea is borderline impossible until they decide to step down.

Just as there's no point in reliably using the anti-cheat, there is also no point in making people exempt from it. If you get auto'd, appeal. Simple as that.

 

The way I see it, integrating an anticheat bypass system would require more time. Not only will staff be wasting their time exempting people from BrawlBot who may not ever be autobanned, but it would also require a developer to actually do something. Fat chance.

 

"Players will (rarely) bypass the autoban while actually cheating"

The ratio of kids flying around using kill aura is at least 1 every 10 minutes. Yeah, disable Brawbot's auto bans so your killstreaks don't get ruined.

 

That's not what he's suggesting...

 

I personally don't like this. What's preventing a player from earning trust, getting the brawlbot disabled, then hacking when no staff are on? There are way too many flaws in this imo, and could cause massive issues regarding bias etc etc. Tbh, I think getting banned until you appeal it is a reasonable sacrifice for how good brawlbot is as a staff tool - which ultimately benefits the players. And yes, I understand that you aren't saying you want it removed completely - not sure why that arose.