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#Soon - Read this if you want WarZ back.

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by Ritzy, Sep 11, 2019.

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Do you want us to attempt this?

  1. Hell yeah.

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  2. No, let it rest.

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  1. Ritzy

    Ritzy Est. 2014
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    Sup Zombies :wink:,

    I've seen countless threads over the past year+ now on how people want WarZ back to its original state with a good playercount once again. Honestly, I've been back into gaming over the past few months and I'll say that there are no other games out there that have the same feeling to them for me as WarZ did in its prime... I don't care if I was getting chased down by 8 Full D's or being the one chasing someone down with 7 other kids :joy:.

    To cut the story short Striker and I have been in talks about coming back to try to take the server underneath our wing to give it a second wind. It may seem like a long shot but I'm writing this in attempt to prove to Putty or any higher ups that the community want this server back up and running. I will do all I can if given the opportunity but if you're reading this you know exactly what you want already so drop a vote on the poll to add the numbers up, consider it signing a petition :grin:.

    What my plans would be:
    • Me and Striker to apply and get promoted to the staff team. (Would need permissions for events or an smod to help)
    • A ban wipe for all WarZ related bans. (Not necessary but would help)
    • Try to bump servers up to 2 new map, 2 old map.
    • Plan and promote a huge re-launch event.
    • Give out 1-2 weeks free WarZ MVP for every account.
    • The weekend that MVP finishes would be when the event happens.
    This will go one of two ways:
    1. After the free MVP runs out people continue playing as the servers playercount is amazing once again and enjoyable, people buy ranks and WarZ lives again.
    2. People enjoy a good 2 weeks of WarZ and people return to Brawl possibly buying boosters and making Brawl money.
    @chickenputty I apologise for tagging you put if you do read this all we ask for is one shot. I'm willing to put a lot of time and effort in to your server again to boost playercounts and overall put some money back in Brawls pocket. I can go way more in depth through a discord call and we could sort out some stuff to make sure it's all ironed out, you would literally have to do nothing but say yes and let it happen, what's there to lose?

    PLEASE REMEMBER TO VOTE AND SHARE THIS THREAD WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

    Also make sure to comment what you think. Show your presence yeah :kissing_heart: Hype this hecc out of this if you want it.
     
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  2. 19Cameron91

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    I’m not a WarZ player, nor have I ever been or probably ever will be, but I care about WarZ and want to see it thrive.
    If we can revive WarZ, it can help the entire server. Heck, this might help revive Wild West.
     
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  3. StrikerSly

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    It wouldn't hurt to try this out.
     
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  4. MoistMayonnaise

    MoistMayonnaise Highly Established Member

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    I wouldn't mind trying out warZ even. I have some gear currently and it's never used. Maybe learn something
     
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  5. Champloo

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    Not sure how effective 2 weeks of free MVP and an event would be in the long run, but it's worth a shot.
     
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  6. Ritzy

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    The plan would be for people to came back free of charge with perks. Players would then play for 1-2 weeks getting used to the game breaking themselves back in. The event would be the celebration in a sense. People would then decide to stay or go. I think if it's done right people would stay but either way it'll be good fun :smile:
     
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  7. Gould_

    Gould_ Not a brawl staff member

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    Yessss! I would love to see this. I have been playing actively as one of 6 players who still play warz, and it is sad, but still fun, but I would be so happy to see the warz community spike up, and possibly make it an active game mode again. If you and striker are willing to put in the effort I think it would be a great idea that could possibly bring warz back.
     
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  8. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Please. Make. This. Happen.
     
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  9. ObamaTheReptile

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    if people come back for 2 weeks of mvp and an event, they'll leave as soon as that's gone. this is a temporary solution, unless you plan on designing, organizing, and executing an event regularly, imo
     
  10. StrikerSly

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    Ritzy's first bullet point suggests we would host (regular) events.
    How do you know that all players who came back for the rank/initial event, will leave? Let's say you have a 50/50 chance of being right, and I ask you this:
    What are the cons/drawbacks of attempting something like this, other than some time being put in by staff?
     
  11. ObamaTheReptile

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    well, the bullet points i see start with him being promoted to staff, and they often tend to mention "the" event, signaling that there'd be only one. obviously if there were more then my concern there would be gone.

    i know because in the past, when free elite or free mvp were given out, players joined and the population grew a ton, and then as soon as the event was over, it started declining, as people would lose their gear, be unused to the time it takes to get it back, and give up. it's happened before, theres no reason to assume it wont happen again.

    well, when you exclude the main downside youre not really promoting much of a fair response. the downside is the wasted time, the time spent on a temporary fix that could be spent attending to other server problems. im not opposed to the idea, i never said that it shouldnt happen, i just dont want to pretend like it's an end-all solution to a problem thats existed for years. maybe im wrong, who knows, i hope i am, since id love to see warz back to its former glory, but theres no reason to assume that this will fix it. id rather spend more time formulating a stronger permanent solution than to keep taking shots in the dark, guessing at what will work when there's reason to believe that what's being tried wont work. again, i'm not at all saying this is a bad idea. i think it's a good idea, and i doubt itd take tons of time off of staff's hands, and hell, maybe brawl would make enough money off of people paying for longer mvp after the event is over to make it more regular, or to focus more attention to expanding and improving the game that could be good. but i dont want to prepare myself for warz to be miraculously fixed by a 2-week thing, because theres no guarantee.
     
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  12. StrikerSly

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    I wouldn't say time is a downside at all considering this is what should be done already to upkeep a server. I agree, it has been tried in the past, but was never really followed up with events, staff presence or any organization. Your last paragraph makes it seem like there are things we can gain from this but that this will not be a permanent solution. And you're probably right about that, but it can create an avenue to listen to a (maybe temporarily) bigger community and start putting things in place, even if we only have a couple weeks to a month to do this. We can't work on a permanent solution without any momentum. Why not give it a try?
     
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  13. Ritzy

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    Thanks for the reply :smile:

    Firstly, I did it in order and I couldn't host an event without being staff. And yes I would go through standard method through applying.

    The free rank would simply be the key to getting players to come back and then I'd try to reel them in and keep them on-board. The last time we had free ELITE warz was actually insane. Tabs and servers completely filled... I'm not saying it would be anywhere near the same but I hope you get the point. I don't know how long we can ride the wave but its worth the shot. What's to lose?

    This would require little to no Dev time. Me and striker would host the event with help of a single SMOD... No game changes would need doing apart from possibly removing a few items like bounce pads which is highly requested anyway. The only time wasted if it were to be would be mine and Striker's, and I'm prepared to do that if it comes to it.

    All I can say is you would personally not have to do anything, I get your negatives and they're fair to bring up but if you were really on board with it you'd bring positives up too. Try being optimistic about it. :smile:

    I've literally never had a chance at this and no one has ever tried. When I was MOD I cared about my WarZ community a lot and pushed out multiple map changes that were liked a lot which kept the server going for quite a while.

    Yeah Stiker and I would do 90% of it ourselves. If anyone wants to jump in then they can freely do it and we would take all the help we could get. :smile:

    As I stated I fully understand your negatives or questions to my post. In saying that you literally have to do nothing but sit back, relax and let Striker and I do all of the work for you. Then come back, enjoy whatever we have created and see where it goes :smile:

    Trust me I would not have even posted this if I didn't think it was possible. I believe I have a good reputation on Brawl and doing this puts a lot on the line for me in general with this community. I'm prepared to put a lot of time in to bring back one of Brawl's biggest servers and I would say the one that 100% brought in the most money with 100's of players buying $10+ ranks each month. All I'm saying is look at the positives, be optimistic and give it a chance...
     
  14. ObamaTheReptile

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    i mean, i certainly wasnt criticizing your bullet point order

    but how would you keep them on board? again, you only explicitly said one event, though i assume you know more events would be a good option, but events alone arent going to completely fix it, though they would do a good deal to. and, saying "what's to lose" isn't really a very good reason to try something, especially when your other mindset is "don't be pessimistic." those two together seem to lead to a lot of decisions not being planned out enough (again, im not saying this is a bad idea, im not saying this would do anything bad to the server)

    Well, I'm sure there's at least some amount of developer time, although like i said i doubt its anything very significant.

    have no fear, i wasn't going to do anything anyway. i dont point out negatives for the purpose to shutting down the idea, i want to be clear about that. i think this is a great idea that has a possibility to at least start a revival of easily my favorite server, which i absolutely would want to see happen. i point out negatives because besides me, there had been no negatives listed. i dont think you need me to tell you it's a good idea, if youre just after affirmation and positivity (which, to be clear, i dont think you are), then theres lots of other posts. i want the idea to work and that cant happen without thinking about where the idea could fail, what could go wrong, and preparing for if it does. hell, if this did happen id probably join, and whos to say i wouldnt stay especially with more events in the future? warz was easily my favorite server, it was essentially the only game i played for years, i would wholeheartedly love to see this idea happen and work, but that goes along with wanting to make sure the idea works as intended. i dont want it to happen and for people to leave right afterwards, and without anyone bringing it up, its much more likely that that will happen.

    maybe i wasnt as clear as i could have been, my point wasnt that its been done before, but that things have been tried before. adding new items, changing gameplay, etc., but none of it worked very well for very long. this is a much better idea than those ones were, but again, because theres no precedent for it its hard to say without forethought and planning what will happen, and it could become another example of ideas that were tried, but didnt work. and i dont want that to happen.

    i definitely agree with you in that warz was brawls biggest asset. i dont know the numbers, but war while had donations i doubt they were anywhere near the monthly, large-sum donations that warz hauled in. if it works, then theres a fairly large chance that brawl could end up being able to spend more resources on it in the future, and grow it even more. i dont want to say im being pessimistic, but i also dont want to ignore downsides or possible shortcomings, and if that comes across as undue negativity, then thats fine, just know that its because i want to see the idea work
     
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  15. chickenputty

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  16. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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  17. MoistMayonnaise

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  18. SoCool21

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    Do it - I see no reason to not +1 you both. If you get accepted, it's an obvious win. If you get denied, you'll get a specific reason why and you'll know what to work on.

    This is the only thing here that I am against. Most players who are currently banned can get unbanned by appealing. If it's a month old regular ban for hacking, and they haven't broken the rules since the ban, they'll almost always get accepted. There are some people who will find it difficult to get unbanned, but these are the people who have continuously broken rules since being banned and are showing no signs of stopping.

    As far as I'm concerned - the only people who can't get unbanned are the people who are showing that they are still breaking the rules, and will continue to do so if they are unbanned. Everyone who we want back can get unbanned. Perhaps we should make changes so we're more transparent regarding appeals (most people seem to not know that they can get unbanned after a month usually), but I think a ban reset is going to be more counter-productive than anything.

    If we have the server space to do this, I don't see why not.

    Absolutely. I have an idea in mind that I'll be discussing with the WarZ staff team once I'm finished with Party, but do you have any ideas of events we could do?

    Only 2 weeks of MVP? We can do better than that.
     
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  19. xGhale

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    Sorry, but no.
     
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