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Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Removers, May 31, 2015.

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  1. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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    nvm
     
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  2. chuckstartaylor

    chuckstartaylor Immer für sie da

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    As of now i agree with you but after a while they might have to to cope with the brawl players
     
  3. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    I strongly disagree with you. Changes need to be made to make the gamemode more enjoyable. You can't 'avoid' a dwarf camping at the flag. There are changes that need to be made. Also, necro is pretty much useless right now :/
     
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  4. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    Right, because avoiding a class in a game where the objective is to capture a flag is the best way to deal with things. Pyro guarding the flag? Avoid him!!!!! owait....
     
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  5. Romkelolol

    Romkelolol Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that sometimes, it is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid the classes *cough cough dwarf engineer cough cough*

    And adding/changing things can be very useful, Especially bug fixes.
     
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  6. F1r3tar

    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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    The staff will make some changes, whether you want it or not. After all, the server can't be like when McPvP owned it, otherwise it will just go downhill from there.
     
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    People don't want the same thing. I've noticed a lot of players wanting a change, not just on McPvP's servers. Sometimes, things have to change whether you like it or not. Majority rules when it comes to the situation of keeping a server alive.
     
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  8. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    @NineNineNine We didn't have coder support on MCPVP, that's why no changes were made xD
     
  9. pookeythekid

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    Tl;dr: only very small things need to change.

    Really, the only changes that need to be made are giving the under-powered classes a chance to survive a match (Elf, Necro), and modifying the small things that make certain classes a little too lethal.

    Take Pyro, for example. People say it's way too OP, and that it's just a pay-to-win class. That's only true if you're an fns-spamming three year old. What Brawl can do is 1) make a quick cooldown on the flint and steel (emphasis on quick, not five seconds), and 2) shorten the fire ticks of an exploding arrow. Other than that, pyro is actually more skilled than raging victims would think.

    And take Assassin for an example of what shouldn't be touched by the coders. Sure, they have instakill and speed bursts and are a pretty good recovery class, but has no one payed attention to how incredibly easy they are to kill? Golden boots for armor, and they don't regenerate health. Pretty weak.

    As a final note, what should definitely be changed is the Mage's damage spell range/cooldown. Or at least make them more lethal so your inevitable death isn't as enraging.
     
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  10. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    Well, pyro is OP because, you know, it insta-kills? The flint and steel just makes it easier, the bow is just as effective.


    Well, that just shows assassin is broken. No class should be placed in that position of somebody inevitably dying. It's not fun too play a class where if you pop your ability, either you die or they die. It's a really bad concept.
     
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  11. Lujiu

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    Engineer is a perfectly balanced to me. After all the nerfs that mcpvp did give engineer it isnt over powered and best of all fun and is one of the last things the brawl coders should be messing with. The classes that brawl should be focusing on are...

    Pyro (Remove the instakill while keeping the class enjoyable and good against heavy armored classes with armor ignoring abilities)

    Necro (Revamp the "barricade" idea for the class and add more action to it. I will give my say on what they should do with necro later.)

    I agree thou. Brawl shouldn't add ANY classes for now. The only reason McPvp didn't do well is because they were dumping money in dead projects. Ctf and Hg would have generated plenty of a profit for them alone.
     
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  12. Lewka

    Lewka Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, if you're crap at ctf then it will make you complain. Anything can be avoided easily, unless you're bad at the gamemode, which in that case you shouldn't complain. It's a certain skill to be able to survive anything
    Edit: you can't avoid a dwarf but you can easily get rid of one.

    This so ironic since I see you play assassin + Pyro is far from OP, you don't even need a medic to take one out. As I said before, you just don't try to find a way to take certain classes out.
     
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  13. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    I fully acknowledge assassin is broken. gg yur main argument.

    Look, I can rek a pyro any day easily. This has nothing to do with my skill level, what it IS about is pyro in general. Just because you can kill a class, doesn't make it balanced. For example, you think assassin is broken judging by yur little "you play assassin so you think it's balanced" thing there. But you can kill assassin easily. So it's balanced!!!1!1111!! Pyro kills every class except medic, itself, and dwarf way too easily, regardless of somebody else killing it.
     
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    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    I dun understand. That was not in response to you at all, I was talking to Luca. Was his a troll post, or am I missing something?
     
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  16. AriesRam10

    AriesRam10 Old MCPVP'er

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    I would love some BIG or small changes. What I dont want is the Admins thinking they know how the game works and making them, them selves. CTF wanted changes before, so go with those changes not some random change you thought of at 3 AM.
     
  17. TomD53

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    Basically Imo nothing really needs to be changed except the classes that are banned in matches.



    After all, if players actually team up, like in official team matches, there wouldn't be all of this hate on classes like pyro and soldier
     
  18. furtles

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    @Lucamaniax You're seriously going to say that I suck because dwarf is powerful? That is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard. I have well over 4,000 caps. I think I know what I'm talking about. ._.
     
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  19. Removers

    Removers KitBrawl Ex-Mod!

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  20. furtles

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    Stats show experience, not skill
     
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