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Idea Assassin Rework #100000

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by obikenobi21, Jun 13, 2015.

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  1. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    Assassin

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    Abilities:

    Items:

    Iron Sword: Does 1.5 hearts of true damage and applies the wither effect (dark heart coloring only). Critical hits do 2 hearts true damage.


    Steak: Heals 4 hearts

    Dagger (Shears): When right clicked, shoots an arrow out. Deals 2.5 hearts of true damage and slows whoever it hits for 1 second, 4 second cooldown.

    Shadow Dash (Repeater): When right clicked, teleport's the assassin 10 blocks in whatever direction he is facing. The assassin has the option to reactivate this ability and teleport back to his starting point in the next 4 seconds (think LeBlanc's W). Additionally, the assassins next attack within 2 seconds deals double damage. 8 second cooldown.

    StunShot (Wither Head): When right clicked, fires a wither head that stuns anybody it hits for 2 seconds and deals 2 hearts of true damage. Cooldown of 15 seconds.


    Passives:


    Shadow Stride: When sprinting, adds a speed level every 5 seconds, capping at speed III. (stolen from @elegle_josh)

    Killer Instinct: Assassin can see the enemies teams health percentages.

    Lifesteak: Assassin regenerates one steak for each kill, capping at 1.




    Note: This assassin could potentially insta-kill, if the opponent does not steak.

    (Shadow Dash+Dagger+StunShot+2 Sword Hits=10 Hearts)
     
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  2. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    I like it. It's a unique ability set, but still sort of keeps the same feel of assassin. Reminds me of a league class in a way.
     
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  3. Lujiu

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    I liked assassin being a very simple class to use and being balanced. I don't think it needs a rework.
     
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  4. RHCube

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    Is this a joke? Assassin is the most OP class. This is why McPvP failed. Hopefully the same thing won't happen to brawl.
     
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  5. Romkelolol

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    Assassin as the most OP class?
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    It has the worst defense, after ninja. It's insta death for 4 seconds make it prone to engineers that litter the place. It doesn't have good recovery and is also easy to spot. They are good, but the most op? No.
     
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  6. RHCube

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    Lol assassin is the best recov class. Try playing something other than assassin for once.
     
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    Rohaibcheema Active Member

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    What world are you living in? Assassin by far is not the best recov class. Ninja is. Assassin honestly doesn't need a rework. Just block and your fine. But, this rework is not that bad.
     
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  8. RHCube

    RHCube Member

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    Try playing something other than assassin for once. Blocking is ping-based.
     
  9. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    You people arguing about whether assassin is the most OP or not, stfu. This thread is for feedback on the idea, not the class as it is right now.

    And assassin is broken right now, either too good or really bad.

    So feedback pl0x.
     
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  10. Lujiu

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    I did give my feedback. I don't think assassin is broken xD. Assassin can easily get itself killed when it tries to assassin someone and all a player has to do is block to stop the assassination from even working.

    We need to be directing our community energy towards classes like Necro or Pyro.... not assassin :bored:
     
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    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    xdd

    See, but that's the problem. Like I stated, assassin is either too good, or too bad. There is no middle ground. Because of the current blocking mechanic, assassin will either kill it's opponent or die, but that's it. It's not like ninja, where it does damage and then dies, it just dies or kills. Really bad counterplay. That's what makes it broken, not OP or UP, broken.
     
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  12. Lujiu

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    I don't see how that counts as broken. Its a 50 50 chance basically of either your life or their life. If you don't like playing with those odds don't play with assassin.
     
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    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    It's broken because it's stupid. The 50/50 chance shouldn't exist, it should be based off of skill. One class shouldn't get out mostly unscathed like that. In addition, the faulty blocking causes some people to die even when they block, making the 50/50 chance seem really unfair. It's just not good for the game.

    Also, I main assassin, and have played it for a couple of years. I can get past a block pretty easily, and that is just not right nor fair. B4d counterplay.
     
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  14. Ironic_Gentleman

    Ironic_Gentleman Well-Known Member

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    I like it, but I feel like the Speed and TP will be OP for capping. Other than that, love it. Maybe make it more of a TP to flag carrier sorta thing?
     
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    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    The tp is on a 8 second cooldown, and this has no armor. In addition, the speed stops scaling and resets if sprint is broken, so this would be pretty bad for capping.

    A TP to the flag carrier would also be OP as f0k.
     
  16. Ironic_Gentleman

    Ironic_Gentleman Well-Known Member

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    All true. Never mind, I'm really tired. Yeah... We'll blame it on that.... xD
     
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  17. Lujiu

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    If it shouldn't exist why did you Main the class. Are you sure your not just getting bored of the class?
     
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    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    That makes no sense. Just because it's a bad concept doesn't mean I don't like the playstyle. I mained assassin because I like playing it. I don't play it outside of team matches now because I just find it unfair. Just blockfake and kill them it's not hard. And yeah, I am getting kind of bored of it. I mean, there's no variety to the class.
     
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    To answer the actual point of the post and judge the rework, I personally think that the damage for the shears should be buffed just a bit since people will constantly be steaking, or for a chemist/mage healing with pots. Other than that I like the knives and the stun. Good work.

    And to answer everyone else, the assassin 50/50 attack was more of an 80/20 in favor of the assassination because it was purely based on ping, how fast someones block would read on the server.
     
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  20. Lujiu

    Lujiu Active Member

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    If people enjoy playing the class. Its not op or up. Why change anything at all.

    Having a slow ping can get you "seemed to be insta-killed" by any class.
     
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