Idea Pyro Rework Concepts

Nah, that would be overcomplicating it. 1 second is also a pretty short window and this would nerf it further.

 

I like the Layered Instakill, as long as reduced fire damage is implemented. I also like Axetinguish, but in a balanced atmosphere, I would prefer the former.

The Mobility Instakill sounds as though it would only heighten the pyro's frustration, rather than lowering the opponent's. Another bow change is low on my priority list and I feel that the axe should be changed instead.

Rhoske's idea is also very interesting. I'd love to see it fully developed.

Good work!

 

Very nice and well built idea for Pyro! I like all of the ideas except for the lighting yourself on fire concept as others have stated, other than that you have my +1 .

 

To be honest, I prefer simple classes so I'd go with basic. It's similar enough to the current Pyro that the transition wouldn't be too difficult. Would being set on fire by flint and steel remove armour too?

 

Keeping it simple with V1 is the best, its similar to a true damage Pyro but also gives it a more teamwork oriented aspect

I would recommend adding a form of counter:

Your armour is randomly put in your inventory and you can put it back on with the risk of taking damage still there

 

Personally the only rework I really like is the layered instakill, and even that could do without the "if Pyro is on fire part." That part just seems silly, because in a Pyro v Pyro battle teammates would want to avoid getting involved for fear of being instakilled.

 

imo pyro would be hella cool if the fire set by flint&steel would get like auto-extinguished or something after a shortish amount of time but from the choices given in the post i like the 1st two (the insta-kill ones) the most

EDIT: also ye ik im late af to this post

 

I know this isn't a rework, or even really what this thread wants to talk about, but I'm going to link this thread anyway, because it's something that is connected and should be looked at. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41756/

Secondly, of the available options, I prefer the Basic Melt rework because it promotes teamwork while keeping much of the effectiveness of current Pyro, and weakening the broken tornado that is midfield Pyro.

Edit: Also, b00mp

 

Maybe for the armor melting pyro rework, give pyro less steak. To compensate, pyro gains regen while on fire and gets fire res. This would make the pyro need more pvp skill to strafe their opponent and take full advantage of the no armor effect.

 

I like the motivation for this, but I don't like the fire res and regen. Both of these would just make FnS too good, and even with an FnS fix, FnS would become the primary tool of Pyro. Why? It would suddenly have an infinite health pool. It would have Medic-esque regen and the Melt ability, which just feels too strong. I might support this if it had NO steak, though.

I prefer something more along the lines of Pyro gaining health every time a Melted enemy is killed, decreasing the steak number, and keeping Pyro's current half fire damage.

 

Im concerned about the whole idea of armour melting. Currently, the only threat when on fire is the pyro. With the armour melt, the pyro could light everything on fire whilst ninjas run around two shotting them. I like the teamwork aspect, though I dont see how this could stop midfielding

 

1. Ninjas: True, but that's teamwork. Any group can beat any single player when they work together. That's just true. (Assuming equal skill on both sides, or only slightly more skill on the single player's end.)

2. Midfielding: It forces teamwork at mid, which is currently something that doesn't happen much. In terms of nerfing Pyro at mid, it makes it so that the Pyro can't just insta everybody. It doesn't stop midfielding, it weakens it.

 

While the axtinguish and frenzy mode are very interesting, I think they are a bit too complex to be efficiently added to the game. Personally, I like the layered insta-kill effect the best, followed by the mobility insta-kill. The layered instakill is relatively simple, you just both need to be on fire, and you cant sit in fire yourself because you would most likely die. It will also prevent insta-kills on pyros with very low health because they could possibly die due to the fire tic damage.

 

I think pyro would be fine if the flint and steel was changed to 5 regenerating fire charges similar to elf arrows.

 

I agree with Miskey
Pyro is fine. just the flint and steel needs to be nerfed.
Maybe just lower its steaks to 3 or something

 

Yeah, little things could be a nice test before deciding to completely change the class.

 

If they removed instakills for pyro or even made it harder to get them, soldiers will become even more overpowered, along with every other class that doesn't resist it. Mcpvp balanced the classes perfectly, I don't think they need a change, at most, remove the flint and steel. But honestly a medic, pyro, elf, and Mage can easily destroy a pyro, and if it 'twas nerfd you'd need to buff/nerf every other class as a chain reaction. I saw keep it how it is

 

Finally a good idea.

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