Instakill..

ORLY? it ALWAYS depends on the players skill, you were probably fighting newbies. Sometimes I give them a chance to fight me.

 

Yes, a 50/50 however given the medic is a medic, the medic is much more likely to have teammates... I mean both most likely will, my point is just that pyro isn't as overpowered as this forum makes it to be. And again; ninja easily kills pyros. I do all the time when im on the offense. And btw, depending on positioning, sometimes it will be the pyro that runs from the medic. All very dependent on the scenario.

 

There are always more defenders than there are people stealing the flag, thus your point is invalid.

 

We're talking counters for pyros. Your arguement was that pyro doesn't have a good counter, mine was that medic and ninja. Which i still stand by because you still haven't given a good point why my arguement is false. Simply writing it off as invalid without any consideration shows lack of interest/valid arguements

 

I hate arguments with too many words

 

Speaking as a medic defender, I usually rofl stomp any pyro I come across outside of their own flag room. Even in their flag room, they can't insta kill me, so I just web and run. Stop trying to make pyro seem unstoppable, because it's not. Yes, its instakill is kinda broken, but it still has counter play.

 

I'm sorry, you may be right about outside of the flagroom, but if pyro can flag camp and a 2 person (pyro ninja) defense can shred most offenses then something is broken.

 

Assassin fakes redstone. I die
Pyro..... It's frustrating to die then go medic because it takes time. Plus what if the other team has a great defense with assassins and ninjas? I want to go soldier, but pyro won't let me.

Archer I don't mind. You all ruined it when it got to 30+ blocks to headshot

 

Yes, pyro was designed to be a defensive class, so it is obviously strong at it's designed purpose. However, a defense of simply a pyro and a ninja will EASILY be torn apart by even just single ninja. A well constructed offense, with communication can tear apart any defense, even with pyros and such. Trust me I've been in plenty of official matches before, and pyros are no sweat. And @StealthSpy007 , Again, a ninja can pick apart any and all assassins/ninjas on the defense, as well as chemists, being able to tank for what seems forever, also taking them out. If you want kill pyro, just go ninja, or medic team or even chemist team. Any well orchestrated offense really.

 

Not everyone is going to have chemist or ninja. Plus usually when there is a pyro, there is lots of other people with him too. So even if your ninja attack takes down a pyro, the defense will still be there, and the pyro will arrive again instakills for and doing all the work

 

Well yeah... but a good offense won't send just one ninja either xD. Chemists, soldiers, medics, assassins, more ninjas will be with that ninja, in say an official match. when up to second communication is a thing. So from there, it's a matter of pvp and teamwork for the offense to trump the defense momentarily, so the capper can cap.

 

And the pyro strikes and kills the soldiers, chemists, and some ninjas.
Really, I've seen a pyro hold the flagroom alone when 5 people came at them. 10 seconds later, the offense it gone

 

...not if the pyro isnt there because the ninja took him out beforehand...? Assassin can also lol...

 

I killed 484894038383083830 ninja as pyro. Assassins are a problem, but set them on fire and its 50/50
I don't even have pyro, and on free Friday I get 33 kills or so and 9 deaths....... Hmm that's a problem

 

yeah, assassins are a problem and if they use they're speed correctly, is easily a 75-25 favor of assassin. Pyro is NOT overpowered, and on free friday, 10x more randies/unexperienced players show up, explaining your score. Not to mention, scores are heavily reliant on maps and the players you're with/against. You obviously don't even play pyro that often, therefore not really understanding it's weaknesses that well (mobilty, open flag rooms, medics, invis). I do own pyro, and play it frequently on closed in maps, where pyro does well.

 

And I've killed a nice amount of ninjas as pyro. Pyro is overpowered. Unless your medic, once you're on fire and mister pyro is next to you, you're dead. Plus I doubt half the randies even know there is a free Friday. The medic ratio out of all classes appear somewhat, and guess what? The kills are so easy that a noob at minecraft can play pyro. You set someone on fire and hit them with an axe. How simple is that? And If I see a ninja go invis, I get and arrow and bam, got him. Once he's not invis he gets killed in 1 shot. And mobility and open flagrooms are its weakness? Pyros can deal with that without a sweat. If your on fire and running away from a pyro, you're going slower than you actually are, so our friend can 1 shot you.

 

First off, your statements contradict each other. You "don't even own pyro" yet you speak with so much experience? It seems you are simply speaking based off either rage or theory/imagination. The reason WHY mobility and open flag rooms are it's weakness is because it's so easy to sidesteps their arrows. And a good ninja, will not let you see him go invis, and also know how to sidestep while invisible as well. A good ninja/assassin will ABUSE pyros. The fact that you have to draw back all the way to fire, makes it balanced. Sure you can load up one shot, but then the ninja behind you 2 shots you. Pyros, where they are right now, a purely DEFENSIVE class, is perfect. It can't do anything else well, while still having legitimate counters, which makes it balanced. It was MADE to be good at what it does, but isn't unstoppable. Chemist on the other hand... but that's a discussion for another time

 

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