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W.I.P. Map: Express

Discussion in 'Map Submissions' started by levi12390, Jul 22, 2015.

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  1. levi12390

    levi12390 Member

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    CTF Map Submission

    Map Name:Express
    Style:Modern, Modern buildings and trains
    Creator(s):levistrauss
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    Download: http://www.mediafire.com/download/7bjc2bkcaeepaaf/Express.rar
    Description:This map has a basic theme in a town with quite a bit of commute. There is a subway, an above-ground railroad passing through the town, and then a a ridge at the edge of the map with another railroad running across. The flag-area is located inside one of the shops inside of the mini-mall area on the top floors. The spawns are located in the back train car on the top of ridge railroad where players kind of "fall out" of into gameplay.
     
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    #1 levi12390, Jul 22, 2015
  2. asagod

    asagod Youtuber

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    Awesome map! Love to see it in game, I would help you make maps if ya want, pm me
     
    #2 asagod, Jul 22, 2015
  3. FairyBlossom03

    FairyBlossom03 Active Member

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    Awesome work! I would love to see this in game! +1
     
    #3 FairyBlossom03, Jul 22, 2015
  4. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    I do not like this map. It's gameplay would be extremely unbalanced. The tall buildings and large obstacles make soldier completely dominant if out of the flag room. The map is also very easy for ninjas to cross and archers to shoot choke points.
     
    #4 furtles, Jul 22, 2015
  5. levi12390

    levi12390 Member

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    Im sorry, but fail to understand. I will not try to argue, but i think that having more obstacles would make the map more "archer proof", but then having more of a soldier advantage, however, having little obstacles would make the map extremely susceptible to players getting headshotted by archers. I know of plently of maps where there are obstacles, such as the map clocktower, where the map map is super soldier op. So my point is, i have dont understand why this map is any different from maps with this experience in gameplay. I feel like i could quote the same about a few other maps. Although, i do understand why it would be a ninja op map because it is a shorter map compared to some others making it easier for them to pearl across map.
     
    #5 levi12390, Jul 22, 2015
  6. furtles

    furtles Well-Known Member

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    Your obstacles are all in straight lines. The roads are straight making archer and ninja extremely easy to play. Don't compare other maps' problems to yours; it won't help. Yes, the maps in rotation have problems. However, while we're on that topic, Clocktower isn't that soldier OP because of the flagroom. The flagroom is very defense oriented. Anyways, let's keep the discussion about the map.
     
    #6 furtles, Jul 22, 2015
  7. levi12390

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    Ok, i understand. I was just having trouble understanding because i found what you were saying was kinda vague for me becuase i just have a hard time understand some things sometimes (im more of a visual learner if that makes sense)
    But i agree, and i would like to see what some other people think as well too
     
    #7 levi12390, Jul 22, 2015
  8. Trebr

    Trebr Well-Known Member

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    @furtles. Clocktower is a bigger version of this map, there are even longer roads and taller buildings and yet it's a great map. This map isn't all too aesthetically pleasing and the flag room is a bit too unorganized looking. But it is definitely a great start to a possible map in rotation!
     
    #8 Trebr, Jul 22, 2015
  9. furtles

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    As I said previously, don't compare these maps to ones in rotation. It means nothing. Remember, Halo was a only removed recently.
     
    #9 furtles, Jul 22, 2015
  10. Trebr

    Trebr Well-Known Member

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    I didn't read what all you said, that takes effort!1!1!! @furtles
     
    #10 Trebr, Jul 22, 2015
  11. levi12390

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    Well... should i keep this disscussion open? Because at this point, im not going to find it worth fixing a lot of these things you guys mentioned, so im starting to lose hope. I suppose this was not a very good ctf map. But im still open to whatever anyone else wants to say.
     
    #11 levi12390, Jul 22, 2015
  12. furtles

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    The number one don't of making a CTF is map is give up. Never give up! If you built this in single player, it might be a bit of harder. I would recommend getting World Edit. With WE, you can adjust the spacing and height of the buildings very easily. I would recommend sliding buildings over so archers can't shoot all the way across the map. Then, you might try lowering the height of the buildings, making them more accessible, adding skywalks between them, and other tidbits like that. After that, maybe you could revise the flag room.
     
    #12 furtles, Jul 22, 2015
  13. ZarrowToad

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    I agree with @furtles about some ideas he had. I can come help you build whenever you want, I'm often on but usually bored!
     
    #13 ZarrowToad, Jul 23, 2015
  14. levi12390

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    I appreciate your offer @ninjamuffin26, but i really cant, cuz my server is not running online too well cuz im having trouble port fowarding or whatever
     
    #14 levi12390, Jul 23, 2015
  15. Plecarcuis

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    This sort of reminds me of Slums.
     
    #15 Plecarcuis, Jul 24, 2015
  16. DeZilla

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    I can see this map have potential for rotation, but still need some work. I would list some fixes I have in mind, but I'm too lazy to.
     
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    #16 DeZilla, Jul 30, 2015
  17. Pavocado

    Pavocado Well-Known Member

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    This map is amazing! It's like a combination of highrise and clocktower!
     
    #17 Pavocado, Aug 3, 2015
  18. Compositions

    Compositions Well-Known Member

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    I love this map. Enough said.
     
    #18 Compositions, Aug 3, 2015
  19. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    I like the layout of this map but like @furtles said, a bit too soldier op. I'd recommend some way of access to the top of the building. I haven't seen the map in person so I maybe wrong.
     
    #19 xxMineSheepxx, Aug 4, 2015
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