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Idea Making Capturing more Steve-Friendly

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by BuffsPlease, Aug 11, 2015.

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  1. BuffsPlease

    BuffsPlease Member

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    Came across this idea just the other day.
    Currently, if you have the flag and walk into spawn, the flag gets restored automatically. Most new players have no idea what happened and can get frustrated, causing them to leave the game.
    My proposal: If someone tries to walk into spawn with the flag, a message will appear saying, "You can't go into spawn with the flag!", or something along those lines, and they get pushed out of spawn. The flag doesn't get restored, and now the new player understands he/she cannot go into spawn with the flag.
    Opinions???
     
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    #1 BuffsPlease, Aug 11, 2015
  2. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    I'd prefer it to be made so you can't go back into spawn in general tbh.
     
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    #2 Miskey, Aug 11, 2015
  3. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Pushing someone into spawn is a strategy if they're spawn camping, so no.
     
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    #3 Sir_Inge, Aug 11, 2015
  4. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    +1 I like this idea for a couple reasons:

    -Makes the game more noob friendly.
    -Discourages idiotic and annoying spawn camping.
    -Forces the other team to actually have to manually kill the flag carrier (which is what they should have to do) instead of pushing them into their own spawn.
     
    #4 EmperorTrump45, Aug 11, 2015
  5. RHCube

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    No, pushing someone into spawn is sometimes the only way to kill campers.
     
    #5 RHCube, Aug 11, 2015
  6. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    They should be able to push them into their own spawn. Why? Because there are too many durn medics, that's why!
     
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    #6 Sir_Inge, Aug 11, 2015
  7. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    No because it's a dumb strategy/encourages spawn camping (which is bad) and because pushing someone into their own spawn is not the only way to recover by any means.
     
    #7 EmperorTrump45, Aug 11, 2015
  8. furtles

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    Unfortunately, in many situations, it is. I think for now, it should stay as is. But, after some kit balancing, we can make spawn push anyone out who tries to go in, no matter what team they are.
     
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    #8 furtles, Aug 11, 2015
  9. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Except that's not a universal truth. The maps often create a situation where hitting someone into their spawn is a more viable option of recovery but on other maps it is perfectly possible to recover without knocking someone into their spawn.

    I don't think it should stay as it is because it encourages spawn camping on badly designed maps.
     
    #9 EmperorTrump45, Aug 11, 2015
  10. furtles

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    Exactly, it's still needed in many situations.

    How does it encourage spawn camping? If this was added, it would just encourage it more.
     
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    #10 furtles, Aug 11, 2015
  11. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    The problem with this statement is that you are equivocating 'need' with 'viable option'.
    Just because spawn camping and knocking someone into their own spawn can be a strategy for effective recovery does not mean it is needed to recover effectively but is instead one of many strategies to do so.
     
    #11 EmperorTrump45, Aug 11, 2015
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  12. Sir_Inge

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    This would encourage more spawn camping...
     
    #12 Sir_Inge, Aug 11, 2015
  13. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Maybe they're not allowed to walk into spawn, but they could be pushed into spawn? I'm not sure how this will be made, but I'm very sure this is possible.
     
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    #13 MrWaffleman, Aug 12, 2015
  14. xxMineSheepxx

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    I think they can walk into spawn after a warning that stuns for 2 secs, making them read the warning. If they don't abide, that sux because there was a warning already.
     
    #14 xxMineSheepxx, Aug 12, 2015
  15. ContagiousBubble

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    Umm. Walking into spawn is how you cap. It's just bugged Rn. Give nom some time. He will fix
     
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    #15 ContagiousBubble, Aug 14, 2015
  16. BuffsPlease

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    Maybe they can get pushed into spawn by an enemy player, but can't walk into spawn by themselves?
    IDK how it would be coded, but it would be very cool if this was implemented.
     
    #16 BuffsPlease, Aug 15, 2015
  17. MineBrick12

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    How about just let noobs 'git gud' instead of continuing to cater to them?
     
    #17 MineBrick12, Aug 15, 2015
  18. Sir_Inge

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    10/10 way to loose players.
     
    #18 Sir_Inge, Aug 15, 2015
  19. MineBrick12

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    With lag and abusive mods, players are going to be lost anyways.
     
    #19 MineBrick12, Aug 15, 2015
  20. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    But why try to lose more?
     
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    #20 Sir_Inge, Aug 15, 2015
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