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Idea Ninja Nerf by boomdrone

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015.

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  1. TheShadowStalker

    TheShadowStalker Active Member

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    We all know the cap hungry people who ninja cap. They do it on fun maps to end a fun map quickly, or stat hungry. There is a ninja nerf that was intended to stop this, and failed. I propose ninja get one more nerf, and that is it. Ninjas were made to be a offense/offense support/defense support class, but cheap players are using ninja enderpearls to quickly skim through the map to get caps, making it very hard for recovers unless someone has their flag. Anyways, the nerf i propose is that they make ninjas unable to use enderpearls when they are holding the flag. This sentence is for anyone who thinks this nerf would make ninjas up, or to ninja cappers. You forget that ninjas purpose was made to be an offense and defense class, and support class for offense. You have made ninja a capping class just to end the maps you specifically hate, and ruin everyone elses fun.

    The nerf: Make the ninja enderpearls disappear when they have the flag but reappear when they dont have the flag(make it so medics cant make the enderpearls reappear with their healing ability). This would only affect ninjas "ninja capping".

    Thank you everyone for reading
     
    #1 TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015
  2. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    No please no
     
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    #2 Daveeeeeeeee, Sep 6, 2015
  3. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    This'd make it practically impossible for ninja to cap, which is bad because ninja capping is one of the best (and only) ways to cap against a good pyro or a good dwarf.
     
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    #3 SoCool21, Sep 6, 2015
  4. ilosthegame

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    If this ever happened, I'd ninja recover alot more than ninja capping
     
    #4 ilosthegame, Sep 6, 2015
  5. TheShadowStalker

    TheShadowStalker Active Member

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    ninja capping ruins other peoples fun, especially new people who like a game. GET SOME SKILL AND GET LEGIT CAPS. plus seriously, dwarves can easily be distracted then assassinated.

    Ninja was not made for capping. It was made to be a offense/defense support class. Ninja capping takes no capping skill, it is just, aim, fire enderpearl, get flag, .1 seconds later teleport, and cap.
     
    #5 TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015
  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Get some skill and hit a ninja 2-3 times and kill them.
     
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    #6 SoCool21, Sep 6, 2015
  7. TheShadowStalker

    TheShadowStalker Active Member

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    Its impossible to if they get the flag and .1 seconds they teleport from the enderpearl
     
    #7 TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015
  8. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Keyword: if. Don't let them get the flag, then. If you hit a ninja away from the flagpole, they need to wait another 1 and a half seconds to pick up the flag again, which slows them down a lot and gives you more than enough time to kill them.

    You don't even have to kill them. If you hit them to lower their health enough, they'll have to stop and shift so they can regenerate and not die to flag poisoning. This gives you enough time to catch up with them.

    I don't think ninja capping needs another nerf, and definitely not this. If anything, give them more flag poisoning so they have to slow down more, but even then I don't think its needed. -1
     
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    #8 SoCool21, Sep 6, 2015
  9. TheShadowStalker

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    Logical points, but you have a .1-.3 second window to hit them, and thats nearly impossible.
     
    #9 TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015
  10. SoCool21

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    You have a 1.5 second window to hit them when they're trying to pick up the flag, and if you sneak up on the ninja then they won't have time to throw the enderpearl. If you hit them once when they're regenerating and they pearl away, chances are they'll die from the pearl damage.
     
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    #10 SoCool21, Sep 6, 2015
  11. Recovs

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    LOL hell no! Do you even know me? give you a hint: Ninja Main xD
     
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    #11 Recovs, Sep 6, 2015
  12. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    l0l wtf, ninja is the easiest class to recover off of. Unless they are way ahead of you and untouched, other then that yur fine.
     
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    #12 obikenobi21, Sep 6, 2015
  13. TheShadowStalker

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    Ninja was never made to be a capping class, it was made for offense and defense support.
     
    #13 TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015
  14. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    And chemist was made for support, so was medic.
     
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    #14 obikenobi21, Sep 6, 2015
  15. TOM_SAYS

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    @boomdrone just do what I do: spellspam the flagpole.
     
    #15 TOM_SAYS, Sep 6, 2015
  16. TheShadowStalker

    TheShadowStalker Active Member

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    QUOTE[​IMG]="obikenobi21, post: 597581, member: 23612"]And chemist was made for support, so was medic.[ QUOTE[​IMG]]
    They still are. but this is about ninja. not pure support classes.
     
    #16 TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015
  17. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    Yeah, but my point is they are used for capping as well. You can't say Chemist is a pure support class when it can tank more then anyone in the game, deal as much damage as a ninja, and has okay armor. And then medic is a decent capper as well. Ninja is still good at it's job too, doesn't mean it can't branch out.
     
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    #17 obikenobi21, Sep 6, 2015
  18. TheShadowStalker

    TheShadowStalker Active Member

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    theres a difference between ninja capping and other class capping. ninja capping used to be bannable i believe in mcpvp, or at least kickable, and for a reason
     
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    #18 TheShadowStalker, Sep 6, 2015
  19. YourAverageSoda

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    Ummm...... Then wouldn't most of the people on the MCPVP Leaderboards for captures be banned? I'm pretty sure at least half of those people on the first page had at least 100 ninja captures. And I personally never saw anyone get kicked/banned for using enderpearls while capping. I think you're thinking about the time when ninja's abused spawn protection to travel across the map in 5~ seconds and steal way before defense could even arrive to defend. That probably would've been kickable which is why they patched it eventually.
     
    #19 YourAverageSoda, Sep 6, 2015
  20. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Why would capping as a certain class ever be bannable?
     
    #20 SoCool21, Sep 6, 2015
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