Why cannot build near flag?

The reason behind this is that most players don't particularly likr engineers, And its even worse when you have 4 camps next to the flag. So generally it would be EXTREMELY annoying to cap if the flag was protected by engineers AS WELL AS dwarves, pyros, ninjas, and assassins.

 

one engineer turret near a flag is all it takes to pretty much prevent any ninja from stealing the flag. The turrets can see invisible ninjas too, so its pretty fair to prevent engineers from building that close. Then there are the telecaps possible by having two engineers to build teleporters right next to each flag. Personally I think it's very reasonable to have a no build zone

 

It's around 15 blocks btw.

 

*places enter tele at enemy flag*
*places exit tele at my teams flag*
*my team wins*
There's your reason.

 

I assume you weren't here for that long. A while ago, engineers were able to be put right next to each other. Literally, it was impossible to pass to the flag if they did this in-game.

 

ERM MER GERD

 

If you had 10 people helping your zombies as a necro and every time anyobe gets near they die
It could also block entrances

 

You only need one correctly placed turret without that no build zone to completely prevent a ninja from stealing the flag, as they have to wait a second to steal the flag, and so get hit by the turret, probably more than once getting in and out, leaving them very weak or in fact dead. Doesn't matter about the cluttering, that turret is all you need in the right place

Believe it or not, I've seen more than 5 people in a flagroom a lot of times. Most people are going offensive, but that doesn't mean quite a few can't be defending. As I say, I've seen it happen a lot of times

Regen cake next to flag for virtually unkillable defenders outside of instakillers. Assassins go down in 1 shot to turrets built close to the flag just outside no clutter limit so hard to assassinate, and pyros die quick to leather armor. Archers won't be effective since a lot of flagrooms are closed to open fire, and turrets can obscure further

Irrelevant since ninja is also a good class for capturing.

I don't doubt they can break through, but equally speaking I bet they take some fair damage from it, they'll be taking damage constantly from it in small flagrooms making it much easier to take them down. Ninjas helping them would last 2 seconds, assassins that are poorly timed would activate redstone and instantly die, leaving dwarves even more powerful in flagrooms. I can just see how thats going to end up

Teleporters are even more worrying so yes, definitely the no teleporter zone should not go at all. Telecaps would be a pain in the ass to say the least.

Ninjas are annoying yes, it's a good capturing class! Many also like it for invisibility and stuff, but that doesn't mean we should stop them, that just means the team needed more defending players! 40 kills a minute is frankly ridiculous and if that isn't a reason to not buff it back to that I don't know what is

The underpowered necro is a different problem entirely, and I expect will be reworked with the other classes in due course. Doesn't mean we need to remove the build zone for them!

 

Engineer and necro are already annoying enough. No need to make them even more annoying...

 

Since I have never liked the classes Engineer and Necro, I do not think this is a great idea, since tehe classes are already annoying. Everyone would hate it and it would be very annoying to a lot of players.

That is unplayable.

 

Because no.
That's why.
The only answer you'll ever need.

 

Imagine 50 turrets at flag...
Edit: I just saw the pics o-o

 

that chat tho

 

The idea is to stop engineers from bulking an impenetrable defense. It's actually why Dwarf is even a kit as Dwarf players are slow, but can charge their sword to become stronger and stronger to kill off enemies. Capture the Flag is balanced as it is from McPvP and I see no reason to make any large changes as you are displaying here.

 

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this is why