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Ideas for developing a clan

Discussion in 'Guides' started by MR_EVIL_OVERLORD, Sep 13, 2015.

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  1. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Sup Brawlers,

    Every clan is different and so are the needs for every clan. I've developed some ideas to help would be clan owners develop a strategy for developing their clan.

    1. Identify a name for the clan
    2. Create the clan
    3. Identify the requirements for the clan. Your focus should be on KDR rather than level. The average players can play a lot but their effectiveness is determined by their KDR. In essence, KDR should be the determining factor rather than level for how "good" someone is.

    You can always invite your friends if you want to create a friends only clan but there are other criteria that you might want to consider such as:

    Rookie Clan: If you are looking to develop a rookie clan then you might want to focus on anyone with a KDR of less than 2. (you'll attract a bunch of rookies)

    Average Clan: Do you want to attract the average gamer? If so you'll be looking for members who have a KDR of 2-4. (you'll attract the widest number of skilled members)

    Professional Clan:
    KDR of 4-5 (this clan will be small but very experienced professionals)

    Elite Clan: KDR of 5+(a truly elite clan, it will be very small)

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    Professional (KDR of 4-5) and Elite (KDR of 5+) should be combined, meaning that once you get over a 4.0 KDR requirement you should accept all those over the 4.0 KDR.

    4. When selecting your Mods you'll want to consider the following criteria.
    - How active are they in game? Do they play every day?
    - How active are they in the forums? If they are forums active then they can attract more members and exert more influence by positively posting about the forums
    - Generally, you'll want your Mods to have a higher KDR and level than the players they are trying to recruit.
    - What other talents to members bring? For example:
    @Algelier is an amazing clan mod because he does so many different things from resource packs, to youtube channels, and he is an in game Mod.
    - How active are they in chat?
    - How actively would they recruit new team members?

    Mod requirements for the different clans.
    Rookie Clan: KDR of less than 2. - Mods should have a KDR of 2-4

    Average Clan: KDR of 2-4. - Mods should have a KDR of 4-5

    Professional Clan:
    KDR of 4-5 . - Mods should have a KDR of 5+

    Elite Clan: KDR of 5+. = Mods should have a KDR of 5+

    Clans that go by levels of achievement say level 30+ and KDR of 2.0 will be more experienced than clans that accept by level 75 with KDR of 1.0. Anyone can play the game a lot and be considered just average.

    5. Another factor to consider is not having any requirements except for Mods. I call this the friends clan. This allows you to recruit anyone and play with the most numbers of players.

    6. Sustaining and growing a clan. @Wolfasa could write this chapter as this is outside the scope of my intended topic.

    The numbers tell a story.

    Some thoughts to noodle around in your head as you create and manage your clans.

    Evil
     
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  2. Algelier

    Algelier Former Staff Member.

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    Very useful thread! Especially for the owners who want their clan to be known around War.
    Ps: I like what you said about me!
     
  3. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I still remember the old Java pack you made. You have some amazing skills my friend!
     
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  4. Vincz

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    Still i think that your KDR graph and stuff should be based on KDR of the last 2 months. That says even more about a player then his overall KDR.
    Ofcourse you have to change the scale (professional should be like 7-13+ Kdr)
     
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  5. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I would agree with you. A recent 5 month sample size would be different than when you first played. However, to level the playing field and compare apples to apples KDR is an aggregate average of total time played.

    You can't measure ability to dodge bullets or quickscoping but you can measure kills and deaths.
     
  6. Xavier1974

    Xavier1974 I cream scarecrows

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    As I sucked about 3 years ago, had a terrible KDR (about like 0.4) then quit. Now since a few months ago I've come back have been bringing it back up. It's almost 1.9 now (which I know is still pretty low).
     
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    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Once you get to a 2.0 KDR you'll be in the majority of gamers who play. The average is 2-4 KDR for experienced players.
     
  8. Vincz

    Vincz Brawl Player

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    My current KDR is 2.88, last month i was 2.31.
    To be honest, I think I'm comparable to AstroNerd2002 (4.42kdr) and Javed (5.67). I have encountered them a lot (recently) in combat and I really think I've almost the same quality as them, despite the KDR-difference.
     
  9. Romkelolol

    Romkelolol Well-Known Member

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    What about clans that don't have any requirements, such as my old clan?
     
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    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    Hmm, I wouldn't agree with that statement. @AstroNerd2002 and @Javed are both highly skilled players. I'm not saying you aren't good or anything like that. I've played them both many times and they are some of the better gamers out there. Any one can be killed a couple times here or there but for the most part these two kill way more than they get killed.

    The "friends" type clans don't really need requirements if you are building them around who you like to play with. I call this a "friends clan" because KDR, levels, and other requirements don't really matter.
     
  11. footyb

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    This was pretty much the same for me, its funny how many people take the mick out of high levels low kd
     
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    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    If there was data on last 2-3 months of play vs lifetime that would be the most accurate type of data. But for the sake of apples to apples comparisons Lifetime KDR is best comparison.
     
  13. Romkelolol

    Romkelolol Well-Known Member

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    I just invited anyone who wanted to join a clan.
     
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    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I think you bring up an interesting concept of the friends clan just playing with a bunch of people that you like. While some clans are more organized around achievement the friends clans can be a great way to have a mixture of both experienced and inexperienced players playing on the same clan. It's a good way to sustain a clan because you will have unlimited numbers of people to recruit.
     
  15. Lekosa1

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    Pretty accurate.



    why in the **** are u obsessed with kdr. It tells nothing... (Except you camp everygame if 5+ kdr lmao)
     
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    evil i saw you on war server you saw me nuking???? 42-2 and i came back yesterday :O G_G
     
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    So I can have an elite clan full of level 1 people who got 6-0 in their first game which means they got 6 kdr. Pretty sweet!
     
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    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    KDR is like batting averages. The truly best players have them and the data tells a story.

    An no I do not agree that you get a KDR like that from "just" camping. That's a weak argument if you are looking at experienced players who have more than 10,000+ kills.

    I just looked at your KDR, now I understand why you are so against using it as a measuring stick of success.

    At best, you are just an average player who plays a lot but not truly special in terms of how you play the game. You just play more than others to inflate your total kills number. That really doesn't tell the story of how good you are every time you play though.

    It all makes sense now.

    You would want people to have more than 10,000 kills. This would create a sample size worthy of measure. Otherwise, like you mentioned you would have based too much decision making on a small sample size that would not tell the whole story.
     
  19. Vincz

    Vincz Brawl Player

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    To be honest I don't see an argument in here why KDR-overall is more accurate then KDR-last2-5months...

    What do you mean with 'for the sake of apples to apples comparisons'.
     
  20. MR_EVIL_OVERLORD

    MR_EVIL_OVERLORD Elite Legacy Legend | PRO | Genius Super Villain

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    I agree with you that KDR over last few months would be most accurate. I don't know how to get that information though.

    In order to compare players, KDR is probably the best statistical point to compare them against. As long as they have over 10,000 kills then they should be similar comparisons.
     
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