Idea Corey's Balance ideas.

Pyro - No, without instakill, any decent soldier / heavy / medic can get through any defense with ease
Chemist - Still does not affect the massive healthpool / damage output which is most people's problem with the class
Soldier - Although a wall climb is nice, you don't specify the cool down length or any other specifics, and the strength thing just has no purpose. Not to mention, any good soldier can avoid all fall damage from the "climbing at last sec" technique. There are maps where soldiers don't even have to touch the ground to cap on . . .

Ninja - Wtf is a cloak? If you mean invisibility powder, it's a half decent idea, but a ninja could respawn and enderpearl over to the place where it ran out in less time than it could regen (even though you never posted a time)
Assassin - "Can no longer assassinate Dwarf." No. If you have honestly played as much CTF as you say you have, you would know why this would be a bad idea. Not to mention, this blocking mechanism is just more broken and would be extremely hard or near impossible to code where it functions correctly. Assassin also regains hearts from assassinating people, so there is no use for the sugar idea.
Archer - This would make headshotting much easier, and people much more pissed off. The slowness idea is a bad idea since people have to run and dodge archers, and it's already hard enough when there is 15 archers on one team. The wolf thing has no use for archer either, and you don't specify anything that it will do ._.
Elf - If anything, the amount of time you can use the reflect ability should be increased >.>
Mage - Although this may work, what mage really needs is the knockback taken off of it's spells (except for lightning). This will make it harder for mage to keep its enemies at a far distance and take away most of their op-ness.

Dwarf - Although I agree the sharpness and the entire snowball effect of dwarf should be redone, I don't think thorns should be added either. This will just make avoiding dwarfs and killing them much harder as many times you are forced to hit the dwarf away from the flagpost.
Medic - I honestly don't see a problem with its natural regen, seeing as it has a low armor. Not to mention, the heal cooldown stops rapid heals between medics. I wouldn't mind the one less steak or the absorption hearts.
Necro - is a useless class and should be totally reworked or removed
Engineer - I would like to see items being restored to people using engineer cakes, but that would increase engi camping, so it's a borderline decision for me.
Heavy - Heavy is fine as is, and if used correctly (and with some luck) can be an indestructible tank
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All in all, I disagree strongly with most of your ideas. Not only would they make the game more unbalanced, they also show little to no effort put into them as there are no specifics on damage or regeneration time or any specifics at all. Although I do agree with some of your ideas (as few as that may be) I would advise posting this in the "Server Ideas" category, and to put more effort into your ideas if you wish to have them implemented.
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EDIT - I have no idea how the OCC Logo got onto this post, so just ignore it c:

 

I'm going to be very frank here. You know who's toxic? You're toxic. There was no need for this reaction. Most of the people who replied to this thread provided either support or reasoned rebuttals. If you can't accept that a fix may need to be made to an idea of yours, we don't need your attitude here.

 

First, I never said instakills are not needed, but with your "balancing," it does not balance the instakills or lack of, at all. The CTF Community has been trying to get a good change for years now, but we can't please everyone, especially on touchy topics like instakills and pyros and assassins. Not to mention, we should not be forced to accept every change thrown at us since it could be a bad change (cough banners cough). Maybe this is a poor design for a game, but it's survived for this long, and will hopefully survive for much longer. I wouldn't necessarily call this community outright toxic, although it has its people you try to avoid, and you have to understand that whatever you think is the perfect solution may not be for other players. Although we should favor the majority, we should not ignore the minority. Did the other server have a CTF exactly like ours? Just because one game can doesn't mean every game can. Each game has its own specific strategies and parameters which allow elasticity for said change. I would personally want to see Necro removed, and I think this is a perfect solution, yet you do not think it would be, even more proving my previous point. I also said that necro needs to be removed or totally reworked. And I have tried other games on MC, but none will have the same thrill as CTF.

 

This "balancing" is the complete opposite. This is what I say for each:

Pyro: No. Makes soldier capping completely over powered.
Chemist: No. This makes it impossible for a chemist to cap.
Soldier: The cool-down is a semi-decent idea.
Ninja: It's fine the way it is.
Assassin: It's fine the way it is. If it can't instakill a dwarf, that would make dwarfs way too over powered.
Dwarf: Maybe.
Archer: No. If archer doesn't have its instakill, then it's a useless class.
Elf: No.
Mage: Maybe. Depends on how much more you want to add to the cool-down.
Medic: Definitely not.
Necro: Eh, maybe.
Engineer: No. It's fine.
Heavy: Absolutely no. Heavy is a strict PVP class. Adding abilities just takes away the pvp aspect.

So overall, my opinion is no.


Also, @kevshadowslayer , YOU MUST DIE FOR THAT NECRO COMMENT!

 

U Tryhard more of nerfing pairo than I am tryharding as soldier in game xD

 

Not sure about this, I mean the bow is already annoying as is with the explosion effect. I'm thinking that might make it more annoying

How much extra damage?

Pointless since pyro's can't be pyro insta'd anyhow, and would make pyros more annoying if anything

If anything, this fire resistant armor would make them use the axe LESS efficiently cause he has more time

This makes him have more health, counteracting your aim in the last suggested point
Overall: Too general and some of the stuff would make pyro more powerful, so not a good nerf

Makes chemist pretty much impossible to cap with. Chemist is a weaker version of heavy without potions

How much less? duration or power? Could buffed other classes be seen as a problem?

Add that to regen and chemist is unkillable, no thanks
Overall: no, doesn't really make chemist different, just gives it even more potential potions and makes it invincible with resistance, absorp and regen on!

Seen before, it's a possible fix, but it would make using soldiers ability very difficult to use a lot. I'm aprehensive about that, as it's still meant to be their skill. I'd personally think a better idea could be found

How longs the cooldown?

We've already got chemist, we dont need more people with strength! Any cooldown? effects? range of nearby?

How much damage?

Overall: Not enough info and I think better Ideas could be made

NO, they've already got invisibility, they don't need more
overall: doesn't need a buff

NO, dwarf doesn't need a buff
Overall: no, dwarf would be pretty much invincible

Unecessary since it's a limited amount of time anyway

I see no reason why this should be added
Overall: pointless rework effects, I don't see why this would fix the class or any problems at all

This would make archers not effective at long range. Not enough specifics given and it would make archers underpowered. Wouldn't fix any of the other problems with archer and isn't really balancing what you set out to fix

Needlessly complex for a free class and totally irrelevant for an archer
Overall: doesn't address any of archers problems, and makes it less like an archer

Elf is already broken, it doesn't need any further problems. It needs a total rework not a nerf
Overall: do more harm than good

Mage doesn't need a buff, totally pointless and make mage very difficult to kill
Overall: do more harm than good

Only fixes snowballing, but a sharp 5 fire aspect 2 sword is still more than enough to be able to do a lot of damage in defense. I don't think this has gone far enough, and it hasn't help dwarfs ability outside the flagroom
Overall: Not enough done

Combats almost constantly in CTF so this would make medic regen virtually gone, which is not good for the class. Nerf where a nerf isn't really necessary

Same problem, making nerfs where no nerf is needed

So you're nerfing healing on medics, but buffing damage u have to deal to kill medics? your logic on balancing contradicts itself. It was unecessary to nerf it in the first place, but now buffing it to have effectively the same thing counterracts exactly what you aimed to do
Overall: Unnecessary and overly complex, not worth doing

This doesn't acually do a whole lot since the necro is broken and relatively useless with spawners anyhow at the moment. Requires a rework to fix the spawner for this rework to be useful, which defeats the purpose of your rework XD
overall: unnecessary

Actually works thematically, but not sure how good that would be to have ninjas able to get past them. Makes ninja countering much harder for engineer, and ninja more powerful...

We just nerfed the cake so it didn't give back items. To change it back the other way is just something I don't even wanna think about. Engineer was ridiculous before the nerf, so much so I still hate it now. This would be taking it back in time, which is just a bad idea
Overall: do more harm than good

Specific but unnecessary. Heavy is meant to be THE balanced class. Unecessarily complex for a free class
Overall: Pointless

Overall Ideas: I just don't think any of these ideas address the problems of the specific classes. Some make unecessary changes whilst others go further and make things worse than they are now. I wouldn't want to see any of these ideas in the game outright. I don't think any of the ideas are salvageable, or could be redone in a way to fix the classes. I think the best solution would be to research the individual classes, the problems of these classes and potential solutions of these classes. It's all very well nerfing something, but if it doesn't fix the problem it has, why bother with it. It's like wrapping a kid with influenza in bandages. The bandages would be great for a cut, but absolutely useless in fixing what the kids problem is, which is suffering from influenza!

Now onto your post. I'm gonna agree with @Ironic_Gentleman here. The people here were trying to provide reasonable arguments for what you were saying, and you have completely overreacted in a negative way. They are trying to help you to see what the problems with some of your ideas are, and if you can't take that, then you shouldn't have suggested them to the community, because that's what this thread is about

They will accept balance if the rework is viably balanced. Yours isn't as I've just pointed out numerous times, and so people are obviously not going to agree with this one. You believe this is balanced, but in reality to everyone else it isn't. What you're really saying here is you're saying CTF shouldn't have happened because people don't agree to implement your opinion, and morally I can't accept that

This game isn't those games, and your opinion isn't always the right one. Just because instant kills can be removed on other games doesn't mean they should here. The majority even said they wanted them on one of Nom's threads (I'm sure someone could post a link if it was really necessary to see it, I don't have time to trawl through threads right now) and so this is completely irrelevant as to why these changes should be implemented

No game truly has balance. If you watched a particular game theorist video there was even a theory that red and blue teams were unbalanced because being on the red team gave advantages because of the colour psychologically. To be honest there are so many variables to most games nowadays you can't get a balanced game.

The community is gone because you're gone? I somehow don't see the logic in this. I mean the community is everyone playing the game, not just you

Again, you're saying because people don't accept your ideas you're just damning everyone. I think if they were balanced, they would be accepted

No one is perfect, and the developers, whilst making mistakes, have done more for this game than anyone else. They have allowed the game to exist at all, and so I'm thankful for that alone. If they need a push in the right direction with viable reworks, then so be it.

Then why does any minecraft server get revamped or updated to newer mc versions?

Your rework made the classes less able to do their roles and what you're actually saying is instakills are the reason for all this trouble when there are problems with other classes such as dwarf snowballing and necro UPness. The community isn't being toxic by coming up with reasons why your ideas aren't going to fix the problem. The only person not being civil here is the person's quote I'm dissecting right now

which server took your ideas and fixed the gamemode with them? I'd like to check that out and see if it really is balanced if you don't mind

bit of an overreaction to quit the game you love because your balance idea was rebuked.

They're not going to remove it, just make it viable which isn't the case right now

This reminds me of "you'll see... you'll all see!!!!!"
I'd like to finish with a question. Have you ever considered you could balance the game whilst keeping instakills?