Idea I Don't Think Soldier Needs to be Nerfed Alongside Pyro

In all honest the Soldier nerf would not throw the Pyro and Soldier dynamic.

Pyros fight Soldiers in areas where their wallclimb is of minimal use. Nerfing Soldier w/o Pyro wouldnt change the fact that Pyro wins %99 of the time.

The nerf would become noticable outside a flagroom. Its kinda rich that this would cause an imbalance with offense and defense when its always been unbalanced

Im basically just restating what the post has said, but its because it makes sense. If anything bad happens with nerfing soldier solely then you can always rollback.

 

I don't think the mana system will be effective if it's for the climb, as you can just fall down. I think that climbs should fill the bar and the more you climb, the more time it takes to regain fall damage immunity.

 

As a recoverer, it's not the soldier that gives me the most trouble, it's the medic that supports it. When going ninja, you can catch up to any soldier and deal serious damage as they cross the map. The problem lies when they get to their side with half a heart left, you go for da killing blow and then boom. Medic heals them back to full. Then this said medic takes the soldier into a hard-to-reach area and camps by them. >:L

 

Den when u come back there are 5 archers and 9000 engis defending the solider

 

Not necessarily true. Some flag-rooms are rather large and Soldiers can pretty much just wall-spam for a while to avoid Pyros. The XP bar nerf would definitely affect this.

I agree that's where it would have the biggest effect. However I'd amend that statement to that Pyros are extremely dangerous to Soldiers directly around the flag-room, not just in it. This is especially true on maps like Blackout and Beaver/Walrus Creek (and others I can't remember right now).

I think if Soldier isn't nerfed alongside Pyro it will definitely make getting into, and getting out of flagrooms a lot harder with a much more limited wall-jump ability.

I also don't think there's much point to releasing an individual Soldier nerf on two servers since its likely confuse new players who join those servers

 

I'm sorry, but I just don't see a point to any nerfs. I've never had a problem with any class, and I feel like all these nerfs are just making the game more complicated, and not actually fixing the "problem". What's the complaint about pyro? How can it even be nerfed? It's armor already sucks, and it doesn't have unlimited arrows. The only thing people want from nerfing pyro is the removal of the instakill.

With soldier, i think the xp bar thing is just a really bad idea. Good thing I don't use those classes, otherwise I'd be so screwed.

Especially when an engie is involved, holy crap xd

 

A nerf might throw the balance off a bit.