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Idea Ninja Rework

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by DJ_V5th, Oct 21, 2015.

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  1. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    The ninjaclass:
    popular class, easy cap, invisibility, flash bombs, ender pearls and a good sword.
    These are all things why ninja is cool but if there are to many than the ninjas arent funny anymore
    and with their pearls they cap so fast that you cant kill them so easy
    My ideas for the ninja:
    make the sword so that it cant cause so much damage but give ninja little bit armour
    i see some classes in ctf and than i think how they look in real life
    the ninja usually has a sword
    he can regenerate and he is really fast
    what i heard from @TOM_SAYS is that ninjas shouldnt be able to pearl when they have the flag
    i would say that a ninja should be able to pearl one time with the flag cause with the speed a ninja is anyways really fast
    the invisibility is good and the flash bombs also
    the problem
    when you spam the bombs
    my idea
    make it like the chemistclass
    the chemist is able to throw some pots after he has to regenerate the xp bar
    that would solve also the egg spam problem
    (ninjas should be able to throw 3 eggs)
    against 414 you can make a little cooldown of the invisibility
    Conclusion:
    ninjas with flag should be able to pearl only one time
    invisibility should have a little cooldown against 414
    flash bombs can be thrown until the xp bar is emty than the bar has to charge
    the sword is for some classes op (archer, assassin, fashionista, ,,,) because it causes much damage
    give the ninja a little bit armour and change the sword so that it doesnt make so much damage

    btw ik that some guys will say now ,,Oh ninja is to up with ur rework" ,,oh ninja is ez kill" ,,Oh u suck dj" and all that kind of **** comments
    well if you are pro pvper you can kill the ninja easy but if you suck in pvp than you dont have so much chance to survive more than one ninja with not so many steaks and alone

    leave a good comment about my rework below and dont say ,,ur rework is bad" .
    that wont help you and me. that just causes more problems
    so instead of making more problems search for a solution :smile:
     
  2. Ironic_Gentleman

    Ironic_Gentleman Well-Known Member

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    What sort of damage would the sword do?
    What level of armour would Ninja get?

    Invisibility already has a cooldown.
    Pearling with the flag is the only way a Ninja can cap.

    I'm sorry, but this rework needs more thought, and a lot more clarification. :/
     
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  3. TechDweebGaming

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  4. Daveeeeeeeee

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    cant be invis with flag if u didnt know!
     
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  5. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    ik but unlimited pearls r unfair cause with ninja you can make easy caps in under 10 to 15 sec

    to be honest i havent thought about that
    the sword like sharpness 3 or 2 (ik atm the ninja has 4 but im not sure cause i dont play ninja so often)
    the armour sth like leather with protection 1

    i mean the cooldown between going invis going visible and back invisible
    the cooldown in fight just gives u the chance to hit the ninja like 2 times

    pearling is ok but
    when i play archer or heavy ninjas come into the flagroom take the flag throw 3 to 4 pearls and cap
    thats anoying and not really fair because the ninja has already speed 2
    thats why i want that the ninja can only use one pearl when he has the flag

    with the clarification idk what u mean exactly
    do u mean that my english is bad or that i need to explain more the themes?

    most creative comment ive ever seen in my live -_-
    (not useful)
     
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  6. ASAP_Quan

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    Ninja is mostly a class to deal high damage, but therefore cannot take much in return. Heavy is a very good counter to ninjas.
    BTW: U can prevent a ninja from capping by reacting fast enough when u see a ninja near your flag. Personally i thing ninja should stay the same.
     
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  7. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    sure but a ninja can still ghoststeal and to get safe out he eggspams
    btw if you are archer and want to hs a ninja u need much training to kill him with his speed
    usually they are after 4 sec away cause pearl and i dont think that many archers are so good to kill them
    (except pros like risa, chaos, winter, and more)
     
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    Ok true. The eggspam nerf is a good idea!
     
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    I agree with @Gavalar08 , Ninja is quite OP already but you just need to know how to use it. When you have the flag as ninja, you are already facing 3 dangers

    1 - People searching for you
    2 - Your take enderpearl damage if your trying to get our of there fast
    3 - And Flag poison

    I had Thoughts like this to at one point but it would just get to a point where ninja would be to buff. There can be debate with the egg spam, but ninja was already nerfed on mcpvp going from 10 pearls to 1, limiting you to just enderpearl getting you\ one place to another. I believe ninja is fine how it is.

    P.S ~ Who ever tells you that you suck is just being Rude ^-^
     
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  10. TOM_SAYS

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    Those are some decent suggestions, but I myself prefer fulltime abilities. As for the ninja armour idea, I'd suggest the 1.9 Elytra and permanent resistance 1. In order to stop ghostcapping without removing the use of enderpearls while holding the flag would be the full removal of invisibility powder (yes you heard that right). In exchange ninja should get somekind of rightclick ability, that when the ninja is hit, automatically an eggbomb explosion with little knockback goes off and the ninja is invisible for 5 seconds (this ability would have cooldown) and ninjapearls should give no damage.

    Those are my thoughts, but your rework is fine too :smile:
     
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  11. DJ_V5th

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    classic XD
    you have at least one good medic who searches u with the compass and heals you
    when you have the flag every1 searchs u
    ur team to support u and the enemys to kill you and recover
    true
    but with 2 pearls you are able to tp yourself in a map like blackout to your spawn where medics and engis stand :/
    srry dont know what that is tom :grinning:
    that is a little bit to unfair
    a ninja needs sometimes to get invisible (you read right) to pass mages and other enemys
    the idea with only one pearl for one cap would be the best idea
    the only problem would be that you can drop the flag, take it again and you have another flag
    but you lost some time so that ninjas with unlimited pearls get you
    sounds good
    the problem will be to find a good cooldown time which is good for every1
    when you use the idea when a ninja has the flag and can pearl one time than it would be ok
    for ninjas who dont have the flag i really dont know if than the ninjas would be op or up :S
     
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    Elytra is a cape that can turn into wings so you can glide a bit. Anyway, the bomb invisibility idea is supposed to replace current invisibility powder. I'd say, have the invisibility for 3 seconds and cooldown for 10 seconds. This all together can work for gameplay, because with that idea you have a stealth option, with the no damage pearls you can easily escape and with the elytra which is armour and the resistance 1 you can endure some more also in flagrooms. It would be something like: hit-pearl-glide-bomb-hit-invisible-hit.
     
  13. DJ_V5th

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    that should be tested at first
    the main problem is the eggspam which can be solved with the xp bar
    2 eggs and the xp bar is emty
     
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    True, 2 is a little less tho. I'd say 3 eggs that regenerate like medic's snowballs.
     
  15. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    lets see ...

    @NomNuggetNom how do u vote a new rework
    (how do u say if its good or bad for ctf?)
     
  16. TOM_SAYS

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    You need to make a poll for that, but then you will get anyone their opinions. In the ends the mods make the final decision wether it will happen or not.
     
  17. ACE_BLUE2

    ACE_BLUE2 Sup'

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    It does??

    Most of the time, the answer is no or soon :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  18. Ironic_Gentleman

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    Ever heard of Silly Powder? ;-;
     
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    Cooldown on eggs is good and maybe a max of 2 ninjas on a team?
     
  20. DJ_V5th

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    the max isnt important atm
    the eggspam is the biggest problem atm
    a ninja should shoot 2 eggs than his xp bar has to refil
     
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