The Nature of Capture the Flag

I see one inherent problem with funneling an entire team—archers. If you've played CTF for any length of time, you have probably seen people talk about "stupid archers", "broken headshots", or something like that. As an archer, all you'd have to do is get a good view of the funneling area and start firing away. So funneling might not be the best idea. Just a thought.

 

The reason you dont rush through the middle is cuz u dont wanna get "hurt" because you want as much health as possible when you steal the flag. And either work on your reactions or stop complaining about ninja capping. Anyway, most maps are hard to ninja cap with.

P.S: @Billhelm best ninja capper evaaaaa

 

i wont bother replying to all of your other stuffs, but to make it short

RANDOMKILLING IS USELESS xDDDDDDDdddddddddDDdsadfwkrzgbqwoprheb

 

I was going to add something but people said this already so..
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Here is a nerf: Once you land after throwing a pearl, it takes 5 seconds for you to receive another pearl. The opposing team could catch up and kill the ninja.

 

I think that ninja capping can seem a bit unfair, and the mechanic behind it might be a bit silly, but I think u are making it sound easier to ninja cap than it really is.

The first issue is getting the flag. Getting the flag generally means that you have to turn invisible and appear next to the flag. A somewhat attentive defense should easily be able to kill the ninja, as ninjas can't take the hits like a heavy or chemist or soldier can. If you just run straight into the flag, and steal the flag, as ninja, the defense must be a bunch of spastics.

The next issue is getting out with the flag. One way ninjas try to cap is by 'ghost capping'. I am unsure the of the exact definition of 'ghosting', but for the purpose of the discussion I'll regard it as where a ninja tosses a pearl outside the flagroom, then runs in the flagroom invisible, and then appears by the flag. As soon as he has the flag, the pearl lands and he is on his way home. I think this can be made harder, by redesigning flagrooms, but I also think that people overstate how easy it is. Against a reasonable defense, ninjas require near perfect timing in order to steal the flag, make it out, and survive the 3.5 hearts damage received from pearl+flag poison. On some maps this is easy, however for the most part, it is actually reasonably hard, provided there is reasonable defense. The alternative method of ninja capping is standing by the flag and then pearling, which could be fixed by redesigning flagrooms.

Now, onto getting across the map and capping. I don't think this can be completely solved by redesigning maps. I think that this can never be completely solved, but it can be made easier to recov off of the ninja. One idea, is perhaps either ninjas cannot pearl once they have the flag, there is a cooldown for pearling once they have the flag (similar to the medic cooldown), or perhaps they cannot take sponges with the flag. The reason why I don't think that changing maps will solve this particular issue, is because I fear that redesigning an entire map to prevent this, would change the entire dynamic of the gameplay.

In conclusion, I think that once ninjas are away and healed, or away and have reasonable health, recovery options become far too limited. I don't believe that this issue will ever be completely solved, however I think that it can be reduced to the point where recovery isn't near hopeless. In saying that, whilst it is pretty easy once the ninja is out, getting out and putting yourself in the position of quickly capping is not by any means easy (and is made out to be easier than it really is), unless the defense are useless; and if they are useless, then the ninja deserves to cap.

 

Dude, look at your stats. You have played a total of 8 minutes^ You can't say you main a class if you have played 8 minutes...

 

Sorry, didnt wanna be harsh

Didnt know about that, sorry @logicalpencils u have me respect

 

All you did here was state a problem, which is pretty pointless if you don't propose a solution for the problem; It kind of just seems like qqing to me. In order for me to understand this it would be nice to know what you had in mind to fix this, even though I dont think its a problem, there is still no easy way to fix it.

 

wat "qqing"?

 

Ninja is useful when nubs decide to go dwarf and other classes that make defense stacked, especially on a defense op map. On smaller servers, when there are like 10-15 per team, sometimes there is no defense. With that said, it's basically making yourself look bad if you go ninja on these small servers. Which brings up another point. If people cap on such small servers, why are they allowed in stats; people are farming stats to make themselves "look good" and it's becoming noticeable now.

 

I dun understand the point, any class can do this, it's just that ninja does it the most effectively.

 

I dun get that part either. The "not very original" part is reflected in basically every aspect of the gamemode, so I mean that's not changing. What I don't really get is the "not dynamic." What's not dynamic about it? I mean, a game that is centered around Capturing the Flag is only about capturing the flag. So? That's the entire point.