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Idea Map Voting (/y /n)

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Co0lk1d25, Nov 23, 2015.

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Get rid of map voting or replace it with an alternative?

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  2. No

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  1. Co0lk1d25

    Co0lk1d25 Member

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    So I know I'm gonna get an unholy amount of hate on this, but to tell you the truth, I really don't care. Hate all you want. I wanna talk about voting.

    As most of you know, you can vote on a map if you like or dislike it by typing /y or /n. Now, hear me out, before you go on a rant in the comments, read this whole thing. And also remember this is directed towards the staff...anyway, I think the voting thing is totally unfair and stupid. Why? Because a lot of the time people unfairly judge maps not even based on the maps themselves, but usually judge them on stuff like archers and how they're too "OP" on the map, which I think is just crap. So, basically, I'd like the voting system removed. But, since that MOST likely isn't gonna happen, I have some alternatives.

    1. Get rid of the voting altogether and let people deal with what they get
    2. Make it so we can choose which map we'd like to play on
    3. Make a separate server with the old maps
    4. Have it so at the start of the game everyone votes for what map they wanna play and the one with the most votes is the one

    Well, that's about it. Again, hate all you want, I'm at a point now where I just don't care. And if any staff reads this, I'm asking you please, at least consider it. If you don't put these features in at all, I wanna know you'd at least consider it. And also, if anyone else has suggestions on alternatives to the map voting, I'd love to hear it. Just as long as you don't scrap any of the ideas I already put up. Yep, that's about it. Peace!!! -Co0lk1d25
     
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    #1 Co0lk1d25, Nov 23, 2015
  2. November

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    that's a perfectly valid reason to downvote a map lol
     
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    #2 November, Nov 23, 2015
  3. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    I kinda like this idea to be honest.
     
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    #3 EmperorTrump45, Nov 23, 2015
  4. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    1. This would make CTF less enjoyable, letting the community have a part in which maps get played is nice.
    2. We do so by the voting system.
    3. This would be unnessacery because old maps get set regurlarly.
    4. If this happens people will only choose for the same map over and over, a bit of variation is nice isn't it?

    And with your "hate", people are just trying to give their opinion on your idea, an idea isn't just getting added because one person likes it. And the thing with your "don't scrap any of the ideas I already put up" , you can also like change your mind when someone said it isn't a good idea because of ".... (put in reason)".
     
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    #4 pandanielxd, Nov 23, 2015
  5. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    the 4 uh everyone would pick blackout and itd get pretty boring
     
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    #5 Daveeeeeeeee, Nov 23, 2015
  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    If archer is OP on a map, that's a good enough reason for people to dislike it. Most maps are bad because of this - Castle was removed because pyro was too OP, Unholy Faith was removed because archer was too OP, Pantheon was removed because soldier was too OP...

    1. I don't really mind if voting is removed. I think its quite inaccurate because it doesn't take into account experience. There's a lot more noobs than regulars in CTF, and noobs don't really understand the game very well and only vote on maps based on aesthetics, whereas regulars base their opinion on aesthetics as well as gameplay. But I doubt it'll get removed, the staff find it useful on deciding which maps should be removed.
    2. But then, mostly only 1 map will be played over and over again. I actually liked Halo before it was removed, and if this system was in place, I'd never get to play Halo because the majority of people would vote for another, more popular map. Its better to have a variety, because one of the reasons why some maps get removed are simply because they get old, and playing the same one over and over again would make people get more fed up of it.
    3. Brawl doesn't have the player base to do this. Also, if a noob played the old map server instead of the new map servers, they're more likely to get a negative impression on Brawl because generally the removed maps are bad. Its been suggested a lot and been denied a lot for the same reason - it just wouldn't work.
    4. Isn't this the same as number 2?

    This "hate" is really just criticism. Don't expect everyone to like every one of your ideas, especially if its about an alternative to something that everyone is just so used to, such as voting. With such a controversial community where everyone has a different opinion and seems to want to defend it at all costs, expect to get at least some criticism.
     
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    #6 SoCool21, Nov 23, 2015
  7. Codebastian

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    I respect what you say, i'm a bit optimistic on the voting to. Maybe the maps should just be what it is and allow the players play the map.

    But people could lose interest in the maps and even in the game resulting for CTF to lose players and be forgotten. the voting allows the staff to understand what players think about each map and make it fun. @November tell me if i'm wrong, But I believe that now since players are getting bored of the maps, there's a higher demand for new maps being asked for. But this is certainly debatable.

    Edit: I rushed this one, its true not all old maps get boring after a while. But the voting system is not a bad thing and should stay, as I said it helps staff understand what players think
     
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  8. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Not necessarily. Some of the most popular maps (such as Blackout) are quite old, or even original, maps.
     
    #8 SoCool21, Nov 23, 2015
  9. Co0lk1d25

    Co0lk1d25 Member

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    what i mean by "hate" is people calling me an idiot and stuff

    OK. I understand if a class is OP on a map it's a good reason to dislike it...that was a bit of a mistake on my end, didn't come out the way I thought it would...so what if, depending on the map and whichever class is OP on it, they just edit it a little, like for instance, with archers, just add more trees and stuff for cover. With soldiers, make it so the only entrance to the flag room is from the sides or something

    And also, with number 2, what I really meant by that was have like a menu or something so we can choose manually which maps we want to play.
     
    #9 Co0lk1d25, Nov 23, 2015
  10. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    So my answere to number 4?
     
    #10 pandanielxd, Nov 23, 2015
  11. Co0lk1d25

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    with number 4 i didn't mean have every single map up for vote all the time, i was thinking have about 3 or 4, and every game it changes, to make sure we're not playing the same map *cough cough blackout cough* OVER AND OVER again
     
    #11 Co0lk1d25, Nov 23, 2015
  12. Codebastian

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    True
     
    #12 Codebastian, Nov 23, 2015
  13. Lung

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    I agree... /y and /n isn't a big problem anyway. If a class is really op on a map(ex: archer op) then I will /n
     
    #13 Lung, Nov 23, 2015
  14. Co0lk1d25

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    Yeah, but I just think it should maybe be done differently is all

    No no, what I meant was like have 3 or 4 maps and it switches every game so we make sure we aren't CONSTANTLY playing the same ones
     
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    #14 Co0lk1d25, Nov 23, 2015
  15. TOM_SAYS

    TOM_SAYS Active Member

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    I agree wholeheartly, old map server is a fantastic idea and the crappy voting system is just a shot in the dark...
     
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    #15 TOM_SAYS, Nov 26, 2015
  16. Ducksfan101

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    Voting makes the job so much easier when it comes to the next wave. Plus, the older maps are regularly possible with mods setting them up. Plus we need newer and more original ideas for maps and not back to old times, because of the last sentence.
     
    #16 Ducksfan101, Nov 26, 2015
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