Idea Refs (I know, I know)

I realy can't see a reason to deny this, accept for the reason you mentionned. That would be great!

 

I really like this idea! It could be, for example, Trial Ref, Backup-Ref, Then Full Ref. They'd only get the rank on the match server, and they'd have the ability of Gamemode 3. This would be awesome!

 

oh NOOOoc orruption in mINECRAFT

 

As long as this isn't a rank that is given out to every player, I think this could be very efficient. There will needs to be a certain divide between the authority and the regular players in my opinion.

If say 2-3 active refs that know the team scene and matches very well got promoted, it would definitely help lessen some of the duties of the mods, that have a lot of other things to worry about. Maybe have a mod accompany a ref for a bit until they can handle it on their own

+1 imo

 

We've had this debate multiple times and nothing has changed. Actually no scratch that, we JUST got another ref, so yeah. To lazy to have this debate for literally like the 5th or 6th time so no long paragraph this time.

 

Things are missed in matches because the mod can't be everywhere at once.. that's just a fact. In concept to how it would work: I think the best way would to have refs focus on selected areas e.g defense and offense. I know the mods normally record for twitch or YouTube so having them watch one area while the ref watches another won't work because people want to see as much of both teams as possible. However if 2 refs were on too, one to watch each half of each map I think that would work well. Another positive is that it would also give more people a chance to have a role since mod isn't for everyone. \_o_/ Seems like good idea

 

I 100% agree! Great thread Brand!! And also, I think there should be a rule that if people want to stream the match, both team rep's have to agree. But anyways, this is a great idea! As @Turmac was saying, there should be like a trial-ref and stuff. And maybe a full ref should have a better chance at getting jmod or whatever, but thats besides the point. +1(00)

 

I like the idea and I think it would be helpful and beneficial to both the refs and teams.

 

Unofficials were never meant to be reffed in the first place

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what the HECK man. bro bro modators are perf ec to dude i like talk to one one time i t was so cool bro ur just be i ng stupd. we cant have any CORRUPTION in my MinecC raft expernece. i wil not STAND for THIS ever.

 

I recently made a post about Austin and I streaming again. If we get perms to stream, like in the past the stream can be referenced for rule breaks as a mod cannot be on both sides of the map at once and there is a high likelihood of us being at a different spot a good amount of the time.

 

Yeah I agree. We could really use an idea like this for people who want to be on the staff team. Good job!

 

There have been past matches where one mod had to cover 2 matches at the same time, making it so if one of the refs were gone at the time, people would break a few rules.

What I think would be fair is have a trial ref and a mod work with an unofficial match so the trial can get used to it. Then, when a mod believes the trial is ready, can promote the ref into backup ref / full ref, based on ability.

 

If we are to have this referee system, all referee's would need to be trustworthy and be responsible on controlling the match properly. The only downside that I see to this is that these referee's would need to be trust worthy and be able to make fair calls. Mods are great because they can do these properly but not all mods are perfect and need to be able to do their job to.

Having referee's would be great to have and a ranking system like @Turmac said. To get this rank, I think their should be a application forum and also voted by the people, just like trying to get Mod. This shouldn't be debatable because once these guidelines are set. It should benifit Brawls staff and they don't need to worry about this problem. But yes, I understand its a bit of a trust game, but if you don't want this, I suggest getting more organized about reffing. But lets be real, as @BrandinoB said, matches had either started late or had to be postponed because mods were doing their job or were reffing other matches

 

We've had this debate time and time again on the MCPVP network. But I don't yet think we've had it while we've been at Brawl (but correct me if I'm wrong). I've always supported this idea, as stated in several posts above, sometimes it can get too much for just a singular Mod to keep an eye on the game. Overall this proposition would not be there to complicate the system even further, it would make it more efficient. Mods would have the support of the refs which would make their job a lot easier. For example, cooling down arguments, organising the rules, setting whitelists and maps. The job doesn't have to be done singularly by a mod, it can be a cooperation between mods and the refs. However, I do think that you need the right people to fill these positions - maturity is a must also they must be widely trusted.

Now that we have a new, progressive Developer/Admin (@NomNuggetNom) to actually make changes to CTF (not like MCPVP) I feel as if it is time that we give this idea a trial, to see how it would play out.

 

There's a reason there's 4 umpires in baseball and 4 referees in football.

 

Yes, thank god Nom is a Democrat otherwise nothing would ever get done around here!