CTF Holiday Update

Looks cool, can't wait to actually try out the rework instead of complaining about it.

 

@NomNuggetNom I think the archer counter to chemist should be reduced a bit now that it's health pool is a lot lower.

 

D***it Nom, you fixed Pyro and didn't fix Chemist's regen. XD

 

In a similar vein, I think medic can lose its fire resist now.

 

Hopefully these will bring balance to the force- uh ctf.
Nom you are the chosen one.

 

I don't think so since the chemist mana bar was introduced to stop a medic + chemist constantly spamming a stream of pots so I would think they went the same way with soldier.

 

Rip the old days of CTF
Where is that NECRO rework ?!? That should had been a priority because people were waiting for that, ever since MCPVP.. Tbh, pyro needs to be rethought

 

I dont mean to be rude, but what kind of gift is this.

 

I was really expecting the pyro rework to be complete ****, but it's not that ****. You can still do some damage to it, and it's not nearly as bad as elf. However, assassin and ninja can completely wreck the class, since the lack of damage did not add any armor back to it. The thing I'm worried about is how pyro will play now in matches. With pyro being such a core on defense, the change in role is abrupt,. I'll need to play it way more to give a proper review, but I have my hopes up

Soldier is completely different ballgame. For one, the nerf to soldier is pretty much nonexistent. You can still easily get in and out of a flagroom, and since you can't instakill them with pyro anymore, getting a hold of the flag is way too easy. Really did not think this one through.

Lastly, the real issue I have with the update is the lack of change to archer.

Really guys? You left the class that a vast majority of the people ***** at completely alone? You removed pyro's instakill due to it being 'unfair', but left the unblockable archer instakill alone?!




How is that fair at all? You can't go around saying you're making CTF fair and not changing the worst instakill of them all. Maybe it's odd that most of the people who designed the nerfs play archer, but there's no way archer would be delayed for those people right?

I just hope that the changes to the other classes don't turn CTF into another run of the mill Capture the Flag gamemode that every other big server has.

 

How much true damage does pyro deal, or are the numbers still up for consideration?

 

Nom stated in-game a little while ago that matches will be able to be played with the old version of classes.

 

That's good to hear.

 

Nom ily

 

On a second note, I tried the changes out and they're all awesome ;o
I dun know how it'll play out over time, but that's just number adjusting, the concepts seem to work great ;D

 

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS HOLY SHT

 

Oh, and also, ninja's sword got nerfed to sharp 4.

 

There's a large difference between how the instakills impact the game, though. Archer doesn't really do much on offense, and the stuff it does on defense usually isn't enough to keep the whole offense at bay. Pyro on the other hand excelled greatly at defense and could very well kill the whole offense in a few seconds, save medics. While archer instakill might be unblockable, pyro was the real threat on defense, because most maps have good cover or underground routes that archers cant shoot in. I think that would be why they did pyro instead of archer first :I

And tbh, I like the Pyro rework. It will only make defense SLIGHTLY more challenging, except for maps like blackout and desert strike where a soldier can still quickly get in and out. However with the nerf to the climbing ability, the other defensive classes will have a greater chance of recovering on them. So it might balance it out. But again, I'd rather play this a good amount before I make any final opinions about it.

The true damage with ppl on fire basically 2-3 shots people still, and after 2 kills you get the frenzy ability. Next time offense comes in, all you gotta do is right click the axe and you can kill them pretty darn quick. They still have a chance to survive, but Pyro retains its powerful ability.

 

The soldier nerf only prevents serious wallspamming, most decent soldiers won't be affected by it much. And I don't think you can 2-crit any enemies, even if they're on fire, without using frenzy.

 

You people need to respect how much time and effort that @NomNuggetNom had to have put into this update. It makes me sick reading your comments and you guys flaming Nom for "ruining ctf" or "never going to play again." At least give Nom SOME RESPECT. Geez you people makes me wanna puke. I get that some of you people are like "geez we were just joking" but like it's wasting space for you to comment dumb stuff when we could be having a good discussion over this.

PS Nom your update is amazing, great job! <3
PPS We should add a separate forum thread where we can discuss SERIOUSLY and not whine about this update.

 

Nice job

Now buff necro!!!