CTF... Ruined?

This thread is really premature. Instant kills haven't even been completely removed from the game yet and there's already complaints about how the removal of one instant kill has already "ruined the game". If you want people to take your point seriously then wait until all the updates are out and then draw your conclusion of whether or not CTF is better off with or without instant kills.

 

No, because they haven't played it enough to see how the game shifts and what will happen. 24 hours is no where close to enough time to see how the game will work. We haven't even seen how it works in matches yes, which is also a crucial factor in my opinion, since it's such a huge part of CTF.

So just play the game and be patient and see how it goes. We'll adjust as necessary.

 

It took Bungie about 3 months to gather enough data/code to determine that one of the Destiny classes was too overpowered. Let's give Brawl some time

 

r u high

 

Totally pants on fire false. The point of premium classes is not to make CTF pay 2 win and it never should be.

 

You know what, when people complain, I feel like we should just give everyone sticks. No classes, no abilities, just ctf with sticks. Then, for once, everyone will be on even terms and we can just play until sticks become overpowered.

 

kk i Get it, ty quar (

 

I'd say that's a slippery slope argument if I've ever seen one.

That doesn't prove the update is bad, it proves people are unappreciative sh*ts.

 

Seeing the name of this thread just after i posted my "Okay enough is enough" Rant Makes me angry again >_>

 

Are you serious? Elf is one of the worst classes in the game besides Necro, but I still play it all the time.

People aren't buying classes just because it's the best class. People buy classes because they're fun.

Sure, you might rack up kills ez with Archer, or Smash people's faces in with Heavy, or never die as Medic, or cap all the flags as Soldier, but sometimes you just wanna try something new. Ooooo, an assortment of spells to disable and kill my enemies? Cool! Dashing around and teleporting across the map? Where do I sign up?

It's like the difference of two different meals. Maybe they both feed you and keep you alive, but maybe you want to try a different dish! Premium classes are meant to be an extra thing people can spice up their CTF experience with.

 

If instakills are removed then assassin should basically be removed as a class unless someone can find a suitable rework because at that point it just becomes a useless class

 

Instant kills aren't just being removed from the game before the instant kill classes are reworked. When Assassin is reworked without its instant kill it will be implemented directly into the game. That's what was done with Pyro when it got reworked ^^

 

Eh, I'd like to see assassin instant kill remain at least, but the new pyro I have found that it was easier to play as pyro now than before. But Archer instant kills must burn in hell, or the punch 3 must go.

 

Punch 2*

 

Either way, both incredibly annoying.

 

I was working on an entire Archer rework that kept Instant Kills but I lost it.

Anyway, in a nutshell, Instant Kills for Archer isn't necessarily a bad idea, but the fact that Archer can spam these instant kills and is very hard to kill due to Punch 2? That is a huge problem.

My basic ideas are to make it so arrows only instant kill on full charge, and have a bright team-coloured trail. Shooting the bow disables it for a certain amount of time (1 second is my idea for now but of course it can be reworked), preventing bow spam, which makes Archer have to aim shots more and prevent the rain of Punch 2 Arrows making Archer impossible to approach.

Unfortunately, this removes quickdraw, which was a great technique that increased the skill cap of Archer, but it also lowered the skill floor considerably and I think that quick draw in the hands of a skilled Archer was overpowered anyway. I have some more ideas, but these are some of the key points. I'll probably post the full rework some time this week.

 

Whenever I see these threads...

Spoiler: I think of this

 

You cant just take away insta kills, brawl. You'd basiclly throw 5 years of CTF legacy down the drain. Remember the time when CTF wasn't with brawl yet and you said in a thread that "we aren't going to change much but add a tad of awesome ness". It's more like "We are changing everything and removing insta kills. Then we are just gonna add a tadd of lag and nerf pyro, chemist, and all the classes that we all love and cherish". In my feelings I am extremely dissapointed and hope that Insta Kills will remain, however much I hate or like them. What would archer be without Insta Kills hey? it would be absolutely useless. So archer would probrably be removed "to even up the teams" If ur gonna change stuff brawl... My suggestion is to add stuff instead of take it away. Then it would be more fun. If you want it to be balanced. Why don't you just improve the other classes? That makes sense. Be optimistic, don't remove the stuff we love. Ultimately, It's up to you and if you change it so that there aren't any insta kills, u might as well just take CTF off as it would just disappoint us a lot.


I hope you take my opinion into account...

 

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