CTF... Ruined?

That's not how you balance a game; that's how you power creep it. Buffing everything to Pyro's level isn't going to balance the game, it's just going to make everyone die to something cheap, no matter what they're playing. Believe it or not, CTF has a meta that revolves around the power of certain classes. Buffing everything would completely change the game. While change is good, this kind of change... would not be. When balancing a game, you want to make a good base game and work from there. Nerf overpowered things, while buffing underpowered things. This way, the core gameplay stays the same, while making all the mechanics balanced.

People often object to change, but in cases like you're suggesting I don't disagree with them! Buffing everything to an overpowered class' level is going to change the entire pacing of the game. It won't be the same CTF, even if Pyro gets to stay the same.

That said, I do support the idea of Instakills, but their implementation in CTF has been shoddy, at best.

I quite like Pyro change, but I think Archer and Assassin can be reworked to have Instakill and still be fun to play against. Although I am biased, as Archer and Assassin are both classes I play a lot (Archer being my main, Assassin being my 4th or 5th most-played class).

 

I actually want to keep it the same. It was perfect b4

 

It is easy to blame the faceless "Brawl" villain for this change, but I am probably the most passionate about removing instakills, and I've played CTF for almost four years now. Yes, we would love to add new things to CTF - actually, we are, by changing classes, but I get what you're saying. The game needs to evolve and unfortunately (for you) we will be changing things.

 

lol

 

Well than that's that

 

Notice how NOM said that everyone. I have predicted before that mcpvp would die(for wrong reasons it did, but i was spot on in timing). I also predict that ctf will die again if this keeps up, and by this, I mean the lack of caring by the staff. They do what they want with the game. We dont even get a say or hear what the nerfing will be, its just bam, class buffed or nerfed. The staff do not care that much for players and thats a fact. Yea yea, I can see people saying "at least the staff are on more", but quantity doesnt beat quality. Mcpvps staff(specifically saixos, coasted, and studmuffin) cared for us. Who said the game needs to evolve anyways? We enjoyed the game on mcpvp for 4 years pretty much when there was barely any updates, now we are getting more updates but like i said, quantity over quality i guess.

The main reason mcpvp died was because the owner couldnt handle a server anymore and thats understandable with a family, but lets face it. This isnt mcpvp anymore guys, this is brawl(ooooo) and we gotta deal with whatever the staff decide to do, without a say on what happens or anything.

 

I totally agree. CTF was perfect without any of these wierd nerfs

 

We gotta deal with it too, this is just like a dictatorship but in minecraft. That is the best analogy for what is going on right now.

 

+1. CTF will dive nose first into oblivion without insta kills

 

I think that brawl should of left mcpvp alone, let it die with pride, but now ctf will die and be remembered as a game where the staff didnt respect any normal players. Honestly, Its just like hollywood making a rip off from a highly superior film(new point break compared to the old one, etc)

 

Just add a poll so we can vote!

Please keep insta kills, they are the main reason why CTF still exists.

 

Eh, maybe we shouldnt complain and let them do what they want. Its going to be acme dynamite and blow up in their faces

 

Jar har dat carma

 

Yep, I honestly think only 1 staff member is good

 

You and @SilverX777 both realize how good CTF players have it? 90% of games have barely any community/developer communication, and they turn out fine. Do you think Riot Games and Valve announce their every update for their games and go to the community and ask everyone what they want?

Brawl is trying to fix the issues from a broken gamemode. In MCPvP, the game was ridiculously unbalanced. Nothing against the owner of MCPvP, but instead of bashing Brawl for changing everything, shouldn't you realize that for 4 years, MCPvP barely even tried to fix all the balance issues in CTF? If Pyro had been nerfed years ago, instead of days ago, I guarantee the game would be better off.

I don't hate Instant Kills. I think they add a lot of depth to a game if implemented correctly. But the fact is, MCPvP implemented them extremely poorly and because of that the safest option for Brawl is to remove them completely.

Brawl isn't some evil figure. Maybe you think their balance changes are bad, but many people would disagree with you. And at least they're trying to fix the game. I mean when was the last major balance update you ever saw in MCPvP CTF? Years ago? Never?

People are extremely resilient to change. People were used to 1-man impenetrable Defenses as Pyro. People get used to that kind of thing, but that doesn't mean it's fair! Brawl actually cares about balancing this game. Maybe they're off to a rocky start, but as they say, it's always darkest before the dawn. Nom is extremely passionate about this game, and maybe while some Brawl staff doesn't play CTF as much as some of us, they're definitely working to keep this game alive. It's in Brawl's best interest to keep this game alive, because it generates then revenue. Brawl isn't stupid. It's a business, and they have to run it a certain way to make money. It's in their best interests to keep the game fun and appealing to everyone, and with the exception of people who seem to hate not being able to solo roles using classes like Pyro and Soldier, people do like the update. Many people say it's a step in the right direction, and while most people agree there's still a lot more work to do, they realize that Brawl is working.

Why would you want that? Trying to get the game to blow up in Brawl's face isn't going to be their sudden wake-up call that makes them go "omg we should never have changed anything". All it's going to do is kill CTF. I'm not saying I think the path Brawl is taking is going to be destructive, but if you genuinely believe that, speak up!

 

Dude... I've literally told all u morons 5 times that CTF doesn't need to be balanced to be fun.

and you keep romping on about mcpvp and how 'awful' CTF was b4. Tbh CTF was 200 times better before

Like Star Wars

 

*mega facepalm*

 

+1 You can block assassins, so there is really no need to change instant kills anymore.

 

True.

 

I think every single person liked mcpvp because the game was "broken and unbalanced" even though every class had a counter to it. Anyways, point is, ctf is gonna die, and very soon

I hope your bashing the prequels because I honestly loved the new star wars movie.