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Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by TheMaelstromsEye, Jan 11, 2016.

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  1. iMuffles

    iMuffles Well-Known Member

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    It also means you can get more than half your health pool down when you fight a single heavy
     
  2. Plautius

    Plautius Well-Known Member

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    Nice quote @iMuffles, @GamingGamelon even failed at research. If I may quote from the holiday update thread:
    "While in frenzy mode, double true damage (7 hearts) is dealt to any player on fire."

    Now, can medic be set on fire? No? So how does frenzy affect medics again?
     
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  3. iMuffles

    iMuffles Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I'm confused by this. A lot of people are saying medics can be killed easily by frenzy but I haven't experienced it doing double damage at all. Thought I was missing something but I suppose people are just spreading crap without even trying it themselves.
     
  4. CommunistBelgian

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    As @Plautius we need to see you more in the game so you can get more experience. Beware of Lordchaos_92 aka Lordchicken_92/Lordboobs_92/Lordbutts_92/Lordnoob_92.
     
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  5. Proterozoic

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    No. :^]


    None biased opinions, well that's a rare sight. Welcome to the community
     
  6. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for not doing enough research into pyro guys. I'm not perfect @.@. Honestly, I didnt expect my stuff to be 100% accurate, mostly because i never got into pyro and will probably never.
     
  7. BAWSS5

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    Ok, yeah, I agree with @Plautius.

    These aren't her opinions of the classes based on gameplay, they're based on other people's opinions of them. (which is why they're so closely 'spot-on' with everyone else's opinions)

    It's fine to want to post opinions and I absolutely respect that you want to get into the game and its' meta, but I recommend that you play a few more games, even some as all of the different classes on Fridays, before you start coming to conclusions.
    Otherwise you really are just going to parrot other people. If you've played for a few months and still feel the same about each class, fantastic!
    But, do try to not let the opinions of the forums influence your own. You really are in a unique position to be an unbiased opinion on the forums, which is something we desperately need, but if you form your opinions off of what you've read of the biased opinions of others, you're just going to add to the echo chamber.

    Still, though, welcome to CTF! If I can give you one piece of advice, it would be to not take anything anyone says personally. People here are usually welcoming and friendly, but there are many nerves exposed here that might be hit. Lord knows people take this block game too seriously anyhow.
     
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  8. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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  9. iMuffles

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    then like don't post a section about pyro if you don't play it????
     
  10. Sibs

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    You have ninja's concept a bit wrong. It's original reason for existence was recovery rather than offence or even capping for that matter. But ninja morphed into into different roles over the years depending on play-styles thanks to it's intended versatility in it's abilities and the changes to class that ending up making it more and more difficult to recover. And yes it has been hit by the nerf bat more times than most other classes, but never really because of it ever being op but rather either technical problems from the server switch (sharpness nerfs) or the community being annoyed (414) As for Ghost capping you are more or less up to speed.

    Won't say anything about your other comments due to the rest of the posts already saying what I would say anyways.

    Oh, and hello.
     
  11. sp00ky101

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    Nothing on assassin........i cri erey tim
     
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  12. TheMaelstromsEye

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    I knew i was forgetting one.

    There you go, updated it and added assassin ^.^
     
  13. dolphincreampuff

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    Are you aware that miami is really good at football???
     
  14. diamond989

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    Fashionista is a wonderful classes that is perfectly balanced and is meant to be played as a capping classes as it distracts the other team by making them lag so much the dc.
    (Btw a member created the class - Cciara)
     
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  15. jarboyp

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    Ikr. The reason why they never but up fashionista up for sale is because it is so op. Those fireworks really make up for the extra armor a heavy has.
     
  16. BAWSS5

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    I don't know about you guys but I find that the fireworks make fantastic smoke grenades in close quarters like flagrooms.

    Large, multicolour fireworks with trails and a short fuse, launched in quick succession, can blind people for a pretty good period of time in a CQC environment.

    It's probably the only legitimate use of fashionista. Beyond the OHKO ability.
     
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  17. BrandinoB

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    Couple things.

    First of all, people hate dwarf for more than just it can't be killed by a pyro or chemist after lvl 5, or ninjas have trouble with it. You're right of course, people hate that, and it is extremely good for defense. But it's too good, to the point where even the best of pro's have difficulty capturing against a newbie who knows how to block and pay attention. The sharpness damage combined with the fire aspect AND knockback is too much. And overall (imo) it's just a boring class. Like engineer and necro, you just don't really do much. There's not much action since you have like slowness III, you cant run, and you basically 2-3 shot most everything at level 10 or so. If you ask me, this was worse than pyro because dwarf could defend against EVERY class. With pyro, you at least had medic to capture.

    Secondly, I think ninja was hated due to mainly, yes, 414 and instacapping. Not so much ghosting/pearl & egg spamming. Most of the abuse occurred with the 414 and instacapping, and that's what mainly got nerfed. As for ghosting, I personally am fine with it. Really it just takes a single defender who's paying attention to stop it.

    But other than that, I think you got the gist of it ^-^ noice
     
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  18. TheMaelstromsEye

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    Thanks for your input brandino, been wanting to hear from you. I do think dwarf is severely op, and the reason it hasnt got nerfed yet is because it takes a while to get to lvl 10 and its probably the class that dies easiest to assassin. Yes, dwarf can defend against all the classes, but that was what it was meant for, and sometimes dwarves are necessary if there are people on the enemy team that are infamous for ghost capping.

    Secondly I completely agree, heck, im still able to 414(takes more time to go invis) and outplay most ninjas(sibs/aether are the only 2 I really have trouble with sometimes). I never said egg spamming was abuse or anything lol, using eggs is necessary sometimes and I honestly think ghosting is just frustrating for the enemy team because if one normal class goes in and distracts a team for 1.5 seconds, goodbye flag to a ghost capper. Its just annoying that you have to look at the flag 24/7 to defend against it.

    I love the forums ^.^
     
  19. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    Dwarf is only op if there is a medic to refill his steaks. If there isn't a medic nearby, he will die against 3 heavies. Anyway the most effective way of needing dwarf without inbalancing the game would be to nerf medic, an already op kit. Or dwarf could be changed so medic doesn't refill the dwarf's steaks but the dwarf regenerates them slowly (maybe at a rate of 1 steak every 1.5 minutes).
     
  20. Proterozoic

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    not really. The power of a dwarfs sword plus it's fire and potion immunity after level 5 means that it's longevity is pretty damn high. Sure, as with any class eventually you're gonna need a heal, but realistically defensive medics aren't really that hard to find. One hit from a medic (which they may well do by accident given defense has a large number of people crowded into one flagroom) will instantly replenish all of a dwarfs health. This can go a long way given the armor value of a dwarf is high, further improving longevity even without steaks. The only thing preventing dwarf from totally dominating all aspects of a game is the slowness, and frankly a flagroom is an enclosed space where you can do nothing to avoid a dwarf paying attention. Realistically the class is overpowered and to say that it's "only op if there is a medic to refill his steaks" is fundamentally wrong. A player who's used dwarf for a decent amount of time has very little to fear. To say medic is more OP than dwarf is a bit like saying necro is more OP than archer xD
     
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