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Discussion in 'Teams' started by xAsh, Feb 19, 2016.

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  1. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    She's gonna destroy our souls.
     
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    using voodoo ^^
     
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  6. BrandinoB

    BrandinoB Well-Known Member

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    O crap @TheZombieKat plz halp ;_;
     
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  8. Plautius

    Plautius Well-Known Member

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    interesting.

    Might want to point out at this point by the way that homophobia is just a form of xenophobia and xenophobia can't really be helped or cured, and it's no one's fault, either. If someone fears you because you are different - which is the case - don't go ahead and assume you're right and they should just be accepting you but try to understand that whoever fears you because of your being different won't gain anymore understanding if no one looks at his position.

    At my place for example, I don't see much homosexuality in public. I am aware it exists because of the internet mainly, but we can't assume everyone spends that much time on here as I do. Now imagine all of a sudden there are two guys kissing each other and someone thinks that's horribly wrong. It's not because he/she hates you or anything but because it's just so different from what he/she has been taught for years and years before.

    So please, don't just say "homophobia is the worst disease" (@Iosif_Stalin) or "society's attitude towards gender whatever covers all of our problems". A) there are many more problems out there, racism is still a problem, poverty is a problem, North Korea is a problem and and and. Other people have problems too, they're just not as focused on exactly their very own problems. B) homo- or xenophobia is of course nothing positive, but it's by far not the worst disease and by far not just a problem that should rather be erased from earth (well, should be of course, but it can't just be). Don't assume everyone is as open as you, and assume it's natural for others to be less open. Try to understand them and try to make them understand. Don't force anything, mk?

    I still love you all, just trying to create a wee bit of understanding on both sides, k
     
  9. Tenshirox

    Tenshirox C a p t u r e F l a g

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    I don't see how it being a natural phenomena means that nobody is at fault, we are a self aware species that should be able to look past differences after we are presented with them rather than develop an irrational fear of it. I don't think that people should be forced to accept somebody for their differences, but I also don't believe that people have any right to discriminate because they cannot tolerate something since it isnt affecting their own lives.
    And? I can understand being shocked in the beginning but continuing to harbor disapproval or even hatred for such a thing isn't something that I should "understand", as they are obviously not putting in effort to understand.
    Homophobia can be considered the worst disease to many of the people in the clan, and you can't really tell them otherwise since its subjective to their lives. I don't very well see the point in this post at all, as the clan has done nothing to force itself on anybody (unless showing that people actually are LGBT is forcing it???). I'm no LGBT Warrior nor do I fully support what the LGBT movement has become with its aggressive attitude towards those unwary of the issue, but this Clan is far from that.

    This Squad was made to allow people of common background to find eachother, and if that's considered "forcing" their ideals to others then how is that a proper understanding of the situation?

    I dont mean to sound liked a triggered SJW Keyboard Warrior, but I dont see what this squad has done to provoke a "Warning Statement" as it seems.
     
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  10. Plautius

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    I'm saying instead of secluding yourselves, talk to others.
    Instead of creating the border between LGBTQIA+ (can we please think of a less ridiculous term) and others, make the borders smaller.
    Instead of expecting others to understand, try to make them understand.

    Instead of creating an Ell-Gee-Bee-Tee-Kew-Ai-Ay-Plus (that is what I think every single time I use that abbreviation) squad, how about talking about it in a chat, looking who disagrees, see why they disagree and maybe show them your perspective based on that in a friendly discussion per PM?
    Instead of saying "the straights" are less understanding, give them the chance.

    I'm not saying you're forcing anything. I'm saying your denying a lot of people the chance of understanding and can't expect them to be any more understanding towards you in the future if you don't do anything about it.

    If all of your problems are caused by society's opinion, how about you try to change it instead of just saying it's wrong?

    Also, once again, please don't be that focused on your specialness in whatever your gender identification is. Just like I have empathy for you, I have empathy for a bunch of other oppressed people, for example those not in possession of a computer and daily internet access, those who can't live any of their beliefs freely, not limited to sexual orientation. Those who are disabled, or anyone else. Everyone is a minority, everyone has problems. Doesn't mean you have to only care about your own ones.
     
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  11. Magnificent

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    For once we wholeheartedly agree on something.
     
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    I'd agree about seclusion if this wasn't a Squad. Having a squad doesn't seclude oneself and instead acts as a means for LGBT people to share common interests that straight people may not deem comfortable to talk about it. You were telling them to not force their ideals on others, so they make a squad meant to let them act as they wish without forcing people to be around such a thing. It's not as if people in the Squad only talk amongst eachother, they all have their own respective teams and are far from excluding themselves to the squad.

    You're missing the entire point of this squad, and telling those who consider their sexual identity a big aspect of their lives deserve to treat if as such. As I said before what is important to oneself is objective, and you can't change that nor tell them to stop. Statements such as "don't value your identity" is just another way of showing that you really don't understand how those in the squad feels, and you most likely won't.
     
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  13. Daveeeeeeeee

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    Omiii, just let them do what they want and stop making such a big deal...
     
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  14. Plautius

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    omii just be yourselves and with each other without putting it into a children's game :confused:
     
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    Erm... Xenophobia is the irrational fear or dislike of foreigners and strangers in general while homophobia is the irrational fear or dislike of homosexual individuals. Can't be helped or cured? I suggest you back up your claims with evidence. While Psychology hasn't been capable of completely determining exactly why people harbor feelings of homophobia, it does have some quite strong observations about the majority of the individuals who harbor feelings of homophobia. Homophobic individuals tend to have more of an erotic attraction to the same sex (as proven by tests and studies) than the general populace, have an anti-homosexual religion, and tend to have grown up in more authoritative households. What does this mean? Homophobia is very likely, at least in most cases in today's modern world, a result of repressed homosexual feelings. Homophobes tend to react with anger and rage to homosexual individuals, likely because of their attempt to prevent their own repressed homosexual feelings from arising in their situation. In other words, they replace feelings of arousal and lust with feelings of anger and rage. As a result of their authoritative upbringing (a family heavily discouraging and punishing homosexuality), religion, or other things, they have held repressed homosexual feelings. With all this in mind, we can conclude that homophobia is the externalizing of an internal conflict. Ever wonder why homophobia is becoming less and less common? Religion is becoming weaker (thankfully so) and the repression of one's homosexual feelings is less common while the homophobic reaction to homosexual individuals is becoming less common.
    If someone is doing something new, something I have never seen before, I am intrigued, not enraged. However, if they have been taught to dislike homosexuality or have been forced to repress their homosexual feelings, then they will react with anger or rage. Just because you see something new, do you get angry? For one to react with such rage and anger at people for doing something that they dislike, to drive them to the point of physically attacking the individuals, should be considered mental illness. It does not involve them, it does not affect them, and it definitely isn't any of their business. There is no justification for hate or violence in such a case, and therefore, is to be considered a disease. I mean, if you see someone just randomly attacking or verbally abusing someone for seemingly no reason at all, the first assumption you come to is that of their failing mental state.
    When it states "the worst disease," it certainly doesn't mean it literally. However, I would consider it still a very atrocious disease, an atrocious mental illness, making seemingly normal people perform atrocious acts of hatred and violence to people who have done nothing to deserve. Due to homophobia, lives have been ruined, feelings repressed, depression caused, slaughter performed, potential wasted, society degenerated, and more. Look upon Alan Turing, for example. A mind of great intelligence destroyed by the heavy fist of homophobia. Or, perhaps, look upon what is occurring in Russia today. Neo-Nazis putting homosexuals through cruel acts of torture. Or perhaps look to the countless countries where being homosexual results in punishment by death or by an extensive prison sentence. Also, the song nor I have once mentioned that this covers all of our problems and I acknowledge that there are countless other problems to be taken care of, be it alienation, poverty, hunger, war, or some other atrocious condition.
    While we're at it, we should be understanding of the KKK wanting to lynch some blacks, no? No tolerance for intolerance.
     
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  16. Phanta

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    well this looks controversial






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  17. Blackfurrykitty

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    I see this team and for some reason I feel the want to reveal my true orientation but at the same time why bother xD
     
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  18. Magnificent

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    same kek
     
  19. xAsh

    xAsh TC Leader | LGBT Leader

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    Hey some people seem to be a little confused on what they can apply as so the squad decided this chart might help :smile:
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    Where is the Attack Helicopter section?
     
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