Idea Assassin

I like the idea but I don't see it working out in cluster****s^^
Also, how are you going to report hackers without their nametag visible? o:

I like the abilities though c: +1

 

I like the tag thingy

 

The leaping idea is interesting. How far is the leaping smash exactly?

 

This is a nice rework! Well thought out, +1

 

Those passives are going to make it even easier for players to random kill than it is now, and it would be about as effective as Ninja at recovering in standoffs. That's a pretty heavy nerf but it might not be a bad thing, if you balance it out by giving it better mobility (which would also make it more fun).

Also, how is Assassinate usage controlled? Does it have a cooldown? Is it a recheargeable item, like webs?

It's by no means perfect, but I'm interested. I'd like to see a V2.

 

Great ideas,

this is a real problem though.

 

kHA'ZIX. That is all. @League nerds

Interesting rework but I think the "no name tag" thing could be an issue.
Also, maybe have the leap resets max after 3 consecutive leaps, because if you jump into a flag room full of ninjas, and one of them has less than 5 hearts beforehand, you could potentially get 5+ kills in a matter of seconds, as well as dealing massive damage to other enemies nearby. Not to mention the damage radius wouldn't limit you to one kill per leap, with a reset. This could be extremely deadly on maps like blackout where you can simply drop down into the flag room

 

But will this not encourage random kills? The sneakiness doesn't rly matter when you're capping or deffing or anything really, it's only useful for sneaking up and getting cheap kills on midfield? I mean it's a nice concept and it fits with the theme of the class, it just makes gameplay a bit rubbish because people are gonna go around randy killing instead of playing objetively.

 

I like where youre going with this. But I think this will just be making assassin go the way of the pyro. And we can see by pyro usage how effective it was.

I feel we need the current assassin because of the current state of the ctf-meta. Camping in corners as medics or dwarves make recovering impossible, and assassin is probably the only class with a remote chance of killing them. However this is more a rant on the unfairness of certain combinations of other classes (I'm looking at you, medic + anything)

Anyway I have some suggestions:
1. Leap negates fall damage similar to the current assassinate skill.
2. That 1 Steak is complete unneccesary, and just clutters the inventory. Please remove it.
3. Please find some way to add the speed boost back (preferably as a usable item than a passive). Speed boost gives assassin ridiculous mobility and makes it not only a good recovery class, but also a sort of viable capturing class after recovering. I can forsee that without speed boost, assassin would be more laughable than necro.
4. Another possible change is that Leap damage will not account for blocking. This makes blocking in corners and medic teaming with the flag a smaller problem (still thinking bout this one)
5. Either increase the strength of assassinate or make it no longer instakill for the assassin (aka assassin doesnt die in one hit). This increases the assassins survivability.

While I do not completely agree with your rework, (out of fear the class I main will go the way of pyro), I still think either an assassin rework or a rework of classes like medic and dwarf is completely necessary. Assassin, as of know, acts as a counter to insane defences, and if it gets nerfed like pyro, it won't be good

 

I'm loving the bonus damage with consecutive hits on your target. Seems like a very worthy rework (in the general direction of no more insta-kills) ! Great stuff +1

EDIT: Though I would really miss speed III, which is always great to actually catch up to the flag carrier/target which most classes can't do. ;(

 

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 this will actually mean that playing assassin may take some actual SKILL.
Instakill is stupid and i love what you did to replace it. Archer should have an instakill removing rework too. I like what you did with the stealth mode. Assassin is too 1- dimensional atm, all u rlly do is run fast and instakill, with this you have many cool and useful abilities. Assassin atm is just a ping-reliant class, whoever has the best ping will usually win in a dual vs an assassin w/assassinate (usually). Assassin is too ez to play and it is too op in certain situations. Here are some OP assassin moments.

A. You are in an intense 1v1 and you are about to win but suddenly..... you die :|
You see that u are assassinated and realize that it was from behind, u do not usually think to be blocking or constantly f5ing ( cuz why would u ) all the time while pvping or else ur opponent will easily win. Literally all the assassin had to do was run behind you and use assassinate, its THAT ez.

B. You hop into a flagroom and make the steal, you are then bombarded by numerous defenders ( including assassin(s) ) You dont have enough support and have to fight multiple enemies in pvp while worrying about an assassin. You are in the middle of trying to get out of flag area when...SUPRIZZEE... you get assassinated.

C. You find yourself toe-to-toe with an assassin, he starts attacking u w/o redstone. He hits u a few times and it looks like he has really good ping, you try to hit him but he immediately either hotkeys or scrolls insanely fast over to his assassinate and kills you. QQ

D. Situation C only instead of hitting him you are prepared for his assassinate and once u see him switch to red stone almost instantly and go for you, you block. You believe you timed it PERFECTLY ( you probably did ) but you then realize that it was a ping-lord assassin and you obviously didnt have equal or better ping RIP

E. Just saw this happen today. You have the flag and do not see any enemies in-sight. You approach the flag room door and are about to cap...BUT WAIT, out of nowhere a crouching assassin above door drops down ( saw this happen to @ningeek212 today ) / or next to door jumps out of nowhere and kills you, whilst recovering the flag! WTF WTF WTF. You f5ed and did not see them, but they were hiding behind objects ofc or crouching out of sight.

My point is assassin is too easy to play while being incredibly OP in many situations. Plz remove all instakills

 

-”Assassinate” - Grants invisibility for up to 5 seconds, which is removed upon damaging an opponent (this means leaping on someone removes invisibility). Upon leaving invisibility, you gain strength 2, , speed 1, and .5 hearts of true damage for each consecutive hit on an opponent without being damaged (capped at 2 hearts).

How much time does the strength 2, speed 1, and .5 hearts of true damage last for?

 

What does 5 armor look like in armor form? xD

I like both of these passives, ups survivability and stealth.

What are the cooldowns for leap and assassinate?
In addition, the .5 hearts of true damage that caps at 2 is pretty useless, as they can easily kill you with that little damage. Unless however, I'm misreading this and this damage stacks upon your sword damage?

Overall however, this class's recovery potential would be kind of low. You really don't have much mobility at all to catch up to opponents, and the 2 skills that do give mobility you wouldn't waste. It would do a fair chunk of damage, but that damage would be quickly replenished by steak, and the assassin would get rekt. I don't think it has enough of a burst or enough mobility to really recover.

 

A decent way of circumventing the steakability could be a form of disable to prevent you from steaking for a bit. This would add a supportive edge to Assassin.