Engineer Turret

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I have recently been playing CTF with my Elite and I love the Ninja. I've witnessed your experience many... many times. I totally agree with your suggestion... although I might be a complete noob at CTF.

 

Back on Mcpvp,. Turrents were not able to locate ninjas invis whuch resulted in turrents being destroyed easlily. Now the reason of change is still unknown to me. So it can go either way and this is what it is for now and may stay.

 

You do realise that is the exact reason why it was made to do that. The only 2 effective anti ninja defenders (before they reach the flag) is engineer and pyro. Otherwise ninjas just get all over your defense, and nobody wants that.


Edit: Please go over to the thread "pearl/ghost capping", 4 further information.

 

When you're trying to recov as ninja and run into a freakin engi. Good times.

 

When your trying to support as engie but 8 ninjas gang rape you. Good times indeed.

 

Remove engineer entirely. No turrets and floods of enemies at a time. win win

 

Engineer is just a stupid class. Atleast decrease the rate of fire for that damn turret its so annoying

 

I'm fine with turret's arrows being able to damage a ninja while invisible, after all it's still a projectile (unless you have a problem with projectiles.) and the rate of fire is slowed down enough that ninjas can outrun arrows with their speed 2.

As with your complaint about turrets detecting you, It's a fair trade off that the two support class's main structures (Necro's zombies can detect a invisible ninja if they were aggroed before the ninja goes invis.) can detect you while still being able to avoid them completely. (Pearls).
I appreciate more people actually caring about ninja's survival ingame since the class has been struggling for a while but this is one part that I say is balanced.

You already should know that this is not a option, why suggest it?

 

#Relatable

I'm not to sure, I've had times where the turret would be able to hit me and I was running full speed. Probably it all comes down to ping?

 

I don't remember this ever not being a thing and while I don't want to sound arrogant I been here long enough to know.

 

I guarantee this happened. I remember being engineer and my turret would be destroyed because the ninjas would destroy the wooden fence below the dispenser, destroying it completely.

 

You sure the ninja wasn't at an angle where they wouldn't get hit? Or other classes nearby that were "tanking" the damage? Regardless without video evidence dating back to that time neither of us can prove our claims and this is starting to derail this thread so lets just end it here please.

 

True, ill find something. But through my experience i'm positive

 

This was because of a bug that allowed and class who was right next to the fence post of the turret to not be targeted by the turret. However, you saw ninjas abuse this more often because of the pearl allowing them to just teleport to that spot, and the invisibility, allowing them to destroy the turret without being seen.

 

BTW: Necro minions can also see invis ninja.

 

Please read, sir.

Anyway, turrets have always detected Ninjas (aside from the "directly against the turret" scenario already described) and as stated, that would make them nearly (if not entirely) useless if it didn't.
You already have Assassins that just run in and do their thing, imagine if basically the same happened with even less (hard to imagine, I know) warning.
It'd basically be declaring open season on them.

 

Ninjas can't be completely invisible from everything. I know it's for hiding but your being invisible to the entire enemy team and there's not that many engineers playing usually. Also ya ninjas can kill engineers pretty easily if you're skilled and they need the turret for protection.

@Codebastian
There was a glitch back then when ninjas can glitch into the turret and break the post from there. Also if you stand right next to them facing front, you won't get hit and break the turret without harm unless the engineer knock you away.