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The Dwarf Hate Train

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by sp00ky101, Mar 17, 2016.

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  1. sp00ky101

    sp00ky101 Well-Known Member

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    Well, a lot of the community has been realizing how OP dwarf is as of late, so I've decided to join the hate train!

    Take a look at this video I uploaded to The MCCTF Place (the channel is run by me if you want a video of yours posted pm me shameless plug ftw)

    If you don't want to watch it all, just skip to the end and look at my stats.
    I was almost constantly attacked by ninja and assassins, yet I didn't die. Once you get fire aspect and knockback, it's all over. As long as you have a medic and or chemist (Buffed dwarf is like putting a nuke cannon on a tank) you're unstoppable if you look out for the assassins. I think with all this feedback they can't not nerf dwarf.
     
  2. CastleBravo1954

    CastleBravo1954 Well-Known Member

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    I was about to give mercy to Dwarf and not go on the dwarf hate train until I saw this......

    And then I was like....


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  3. GreenNature

    GreenNature Nature is Creative

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    The good thing is that no one plays dwarf.
     
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  4. IvanDoomy

    IvanDoomy Active Member

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    The best kind of nerf that could ever happen it's setting lvl 10 as the max level of exp. That would be a band-aid fix...And we don't want that. We want to remove it. As I've said before: No one needs it.

    A good rework idea could actually be implemented but, to be honest, there's no need for Dwarf to be an actual class.
     
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  5. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Until ninjas nerfed again, no one will nerf dwarf yet.
     
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  6. iWatchPaintDry

    iWatchPaintDry Well-Known Member

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    Remove Dwarf #DownWithDwarf

    Basically a buffed heavy is a good substitute and it encourages better teamwork, rather than sitting on flag and hitting.
     
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  7. Palm_Top

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    Do you mean to argue that Ninja is such an issue warrants Dwarf to hold the potential to carry an entire defense if given enough time? Ninja may be annoying to deal with when you aren't attentive, but if you position yourself in the eyes of Offensive Players Dwarf crushes their dreams way harder than Ninja can on a defense.
     
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  8. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Dwarves are more popular now cause they are an easy way to deal with ghost cappers. Nerf ninja again and make it unable to cap like that. Dwarves wont be used as much anymore.
     
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  9. Magnificent

    Magnificent Dallas Fuel

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    So because you can't defend against a ghost capper, it needs another nerf?

    Gtfo.
     
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  10. Deppuccino

    Deppuccino Well-Known Member

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    These are the stuff that make me lose my faith in C- owait ive already lost it.
    These are the reasons we cant have nice things.
     
  11. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    I hope you all realize the best that can ever be done is a rework/nerf, because mods have stated time and time again they are NOT removing classes under any circumstances. @Nohox @NomNuggetNom
     
  12. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Lmao, yea okay ghost capper. How about you try staring at a flag the entire game and see how fun that is? The only way to defend against ghost cappers is stare at the flag 24/7 which is hard to do when theres people attacking flag. Only lucky recoverers can recover the flag. So how about no, I wont gtfo
     
  13. Magnificent

    Magnificent Dallas Fuel

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    Pyro/Mage > Ghost capper
     
  14. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    2 broken classes to counter a broken class. Pyros frenzy is more op then old instakill. Mage is a more annoying archer.
     
  15. kriztmas

    kriztmas Well-Known Member

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    "Lucky" if i steal as ninja and people like @TheAethers is on def he can catch up with me halfways. Many can if they actully try
     
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  16. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Yes, cool. TheAethers is one of the most skilled ninjas on the server. Of course he would be able to, and sometimes he doesnt even get it. Its not the point if a pro can catch up ro not. Its the point that it pretty much slaps any new people in the face and theyll go to other servers. Ghost/prems ruin gameplay
     
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  17. Sibs

    Sibs Well-Known Member

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    And as been said to you before: This is not an option. Nom isn't going to screw over everyone who bought this class when reworks/changes are possible. I recommend to you to stop asking this altogether.
     
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  18. Palm_Top

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    Apparently you assume Ninja's capping power justifies Dwarfs immense defensive power? I don't see how this makes it okay for Dwarf to be this powerful, Ninja may be annoying to deal with but it's far from being as disastrous as needing a class that can become a 1 Shot Kill-All machine.

    I'm no Aethers, but Ive consistently beaten Ninja capturers more often than I haven't. Even if I believe Ninja capturing is annoying, Dwarf is far more potent and disastrous to the game. It minimizes the need for teamwork and forces offense to work a lot harder than it would without it, and this could be easily fixed by simply changing Dwarf.
     
  19. IvanDoomy

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    Umm...No. If these posts are being created just because I talked about dwarf being removed and people agree, then I must be doing something right.
    By rework/nerf you mean necro-ing it? It's the best idea honestly and I would agree with it. If rework/changes are possible, suggest one. I can't think of something to make this class enjoyable and fun to play against.
     
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  20. Sibs

    Sibs Well-Known Member

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    Then go ahead and try and get the mods (much less Sig or Nom) to agree with you, I can bet you'll get the same result.

    And your "Necro-ing" term is just a cover for "I hate this so I want to purposefully harm it it to ruin others fun." a terrible and arrogant idea based on your feelings. I believe that changing the class so it works in different roles and functions could be a better way to go than "Lets ruin it for others."

    I understand you're upset over the current system, we all are in one way or another, but you need to be reasonable if you want the whole community to side with you.
     
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