POLL : Should dwarf engi and necro be removed?

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Same.

 

Issues

1. Your the noob for calling others a noob just because of their favorite class
2. ^
3. Rather then complaining, train and learn to counter these classes with whatever your main is
4. The football gif makes me cri

 

While I agree Dwarf isn't at all very situational or skill-based, I could argue about engineer and Necro. Engineer has been nerfed too many times, and how you say it's OP? The pickaxe was nerfed, turrets now have durability and die over time, teleporters are only one way, cake doesn't refill but only heals, and much more. The thing about Engineer and Necro is that, yes, there is very little skill (you might say no skill at all, but imah just conclude that it takes very little), but it takes at least a little strategy. Most engineers and necros have their turrets/spawners broken or get themselves killed because of their weak defense. This way it's crucial to put your structures in nice places, this might sound like it's map-biased, but it's also crucial to put it at some point at the map like offensive (all the way into enemy territory), neutral (in the middle of the map), or defensive (in your team's side). I could say more, but engi and necro add a new taste to CTF, not pure skill (which quite literally defines every single game in Minecraft), but rather strategy. It's just that they might need to be tweaked to fulfill that.

 

Actually, I major pyro and ninja, well I used to when I was one of the bigger CTF players (Since then I have left and now I'm back with Wild West). I have Engineer, but I barely use it. I get bored playing dwarf and why bother with necro. I am EXTREMELY experienced with CTF, I just figure it out rather then whining. Dwarf is countered by ranged (To slow to get to them), Necro is Underpowered anyway and Engineer can be countered by mage (Ice the turret) or anything that can sneak up on the engineer (Ninja, Pyro, Assassin) as well as head-shots (Archer, which is FREE). Also, what about those hundreds of people who PAYED FOR THOSE CLASSES... Rather then requesting them to be deleted, put in ideas for reworks and tweaks that make them useful yet resolve the aforementioned issues. I don't mean to be a jackass, but all you seem to do is throw insults around rather then attempting to resolve the issues.

P.S., your clearly a newer CTF player, due to about a year ago when all I did was CTF, I never ONCE saw you playing any role more then that of the average newbie. (Over 6+ months)

 

I have soloed them all xD
There is no point in ANY of the classes being a class besides the fact that they are there to provide variety to the game, and the same goes for these 3. If you were to post a REWORK idea then I would gladly read it, but all you have done here is post a "Ug I got killed by this class so its bad, please remove it ):" xD

 

Im not opposed to totally overhauling classes. I am opposed to thoughtless bandaid fixes that don't help anyone except people who can't deal with sucky classes, won't stop whining, and refuse to come up with an original solution not involving giving up by removing classes. Therefore,
- 2 ^ 32
Which is the largest integer Java can handle.

 

There's no need for reworks.



Well, if that's the case then let's remove every single class to balance out the game because who needs reworks when I can fist someone to death for equally satisfying gameplay.

 

Yes, but the overall statement is still relevant. By not attempting to work with a class, we might as well just concede that no class will ever be good and remove them all. Which would be stupid. But that's the logic were working with here.
There's no reason to ever remove a class that's not insanely glitched out. It makes no sense. Each class has the potential to play an important role.

 

Might as well share my opinions. Dwarf and Necro need to be removed until they can be reworked. I was playing Chemist and a Dwarf instakilled me. That is not ok. Necro is just completely useless so yeah.

 

And if it can be reworked there's no reason not to try. I'm not saying we keep all these classes in their current state, what I'm saying is that it's stupid to just say "if it's OP or UP remove it." NO! We are in the business of fixing CTF not hacking away at it. Dwarf if an integral part of defense. It still can be and not be OP with the right rework. Necro USED to be VERY useful especially on defense. Those mobs were killer. Why can't we try and get something like that again?
Engineer IS very useful and balanced. Now, in great numbers it's frustrating, but you get a similar effect when you put 4 good mages together. It's frustratingly OP cause there's so many of them.

If we remove everything that insta kills in the right circumstances were gonna have to take out like half of CTF

 

Dwarf is my main cuz I like getting raged at.