Thoughts on Ninja

I'd be fine if they changed it to Sharpness V instead of IV. Also, to have infinite eggs, but to have a cooldown to prevent eggs spams. (that gets rid of that issue currently present)

 

Where do I belong with your medic theory, mhm?

 

Eh. Speaking as a defense/recovery main nowadays myself I can tell you that some of the classes up there are easier than you think.
Heavy: 90% chance your dead unless in a group
Soldier: 50/50 shot, depends on location, how wallspammy a soldier is, and current health
Medic: Decent chance to win, strafing saves lives
Archer: for some reason ic annot kill archers for ****, despite them being worse than medics in every way
Pyro: EZ as long as your not on fire
Ninja: ninja wins. 10/10 times
Chemist: distract the chemist from potting and you got yourself a ded chemist
Assassin: if assassin decides to nub it out and assassinate than yur screwed, otherwise 50/50 shot
Engineer: with turret and ded, without, ez
Necro: Same as soldier, just with less jumping
Dwarf: Your ****ed if over level 4
Elf: Ninja generally wins
Mage: depends on spellspammyness of mage

 

As a ninja recov loser/tryhard, sharp 4 means you might as well just play assassin instead (which alot of people have been doing).

Aside from the almost impossible solo recov from medic+anything teams, any capper that decides to fight back against a ninja will in general kill the ninja (solo ninja, not a group of ninjas), you cant strafe a chemist because damage pots break strafe and the chemist will kill you with 2 dmg pots and 1 sword hit before he even needs to bother to health twice, soldiers tank your hits and kill you in around 3 hits, a well placed medic web limits ninja strafe movement around a medic and if stuck, forces the ninja to waste 2 hearts to pearl out, and ninja recovery from other ninjas boils down to who had the most health when they first pearled. I feel almost useless in matches because a solo ninja cant make any difference against a capper with an escort, even if you're on your own teams side. In casual games people complain about ninja def/recov only because they fight ninjas in large flagroom maps with a ratio of 5 ninjas to one capper, (teamwork op btw).

Even in regular pvp, as long as the person against a ninja can steak well/heal pot well/heal spell well, has means to force the ninja to waste a pearl towards them (lightning spell, punch arrows, dmg pots, earth bow, soldier climb, web, circumstantial engi turrets), and they can at least hit you 10% of the time, strafing doesnt even matter, as long as they heal enough to hit you that 10% of the time, ninja loses.

For you mages btw if u didnt know yet, you can look straight down and lightning to deal 3 hearts of damage + fall damage and knock a ninja back to the shadow realm because lightning has a splash radius greater than your irl waist size, allowing you to heal up, and reset the fight back in your favor.

I get i'm probably one of the most ninja biased people, but i have a feeling my kdr didnt decrease from 1 to 0.2 just because i suck at pvp or because "people got better".

(forgive any and all grammar mistakes pls, english was always my worst subject)

 

the 1v1's depend on the player skill
take an auto clicking noob like socool for example
he would win all the match ups against the low armoured classes
but other people are extremely bad and will not win these match ups
ninja is not bad u are

 

maybe im a bias ninja main but I rlly think ninja needs a sword buff

that was my score as ninja def in TO vs TC

n that was my score the next game when I decided I had had enough of ninja and switched classes

soo I don't rlly think me getting a bad score as ninja is a reflection of my skill level since I got a 43 ks the next game, its more a reflection of the fact ninja defense is weak af. sure, I got more kills with ninja but that was in a 30 minute blackout game. the second screenie is from a 20 minute valley of ruin game

 

Agreed.

It's time to Make Ninja Great Again!

 

i feel like ninja should have 10 ender pearls

 

So imgonna give yall my thoughts on ninja
First off Im not an avid ninja but ive @played it before and i can say i really enjoyed it.
But even so it is a class that seems to be unbalanced. I thought ninja was supposed to be a recovery class but too many times its used to get ez caps. Ghosting and premas once learned are easy methods of capping. I think there needs to be something that you cant take flag unless enderpeael was thrown up to 2 seconds prior. As a defender sometimes payeling aytention to rest of offence I see a ninja at flag. I go to hit him and get him twice but then hes long gone. This works even better when they eggspam the fuq out of u. There needs to b certain egg cooldown. I think the sword is fine and i think the speed is fine. Maybe 1 or 2 peices of leather armour? Defence wise its not gud enough while on off it is more than good. Also too many people try and pvp as ninjas. EXPECT TO DIE! Ninja isnt made to sustain in fights. Its ment for recovery / targeting weak armoured
classes. Overall ninja is a good class that needs a bit of changing.

 

Im not saying u shouldnt pvp. But most classes with full steak will beat a decent ninja. Id like to increase armour and modify abilitys that make capping easier. More armor will help with recoving and allowing it to have a greater chance when fighting. Def ninja is too weak atm even tho its role is. Intended to be def/recov

 

I honestly dont know what the staff was thinking when they decided to nerf ninja's dmg...
-No armor
-9 attack dmg which is roughly 4 hearts with no armor
-it takes extremely long to kill a goddamn chemist now even when it got nerfed
for christs sake brawl , just buff ninja's sword to sharp 6 and it will be a good class again, you're making every class -except archer mage and medic downright crap

Ninja doesnt need to be great again. It needs another rework!

 

According to @NomNuggetNom

Despite the fact that sharp 4 still takes the same amount of hits to kill a pyro as sharp 5 which was what it was before the current nerf.

 

To buff ninja I think we need to bring back 414ing because, with brawls lag and godly strafes, you will be a very difficult target to hit. Multiple ender pearls is very convenient so I can do more complicated ghosts.