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archers
lots of archers

 

Looks bad, game play looks bad too

 

No perms

 

You cant stop saying that things I make/say have a lack of detail, can you? ^-^.

 

You really can't judge by the pictures and that is why I asked to have permission to view. Looking tomorrow,thanks.

 

The whole map's way too open. Archers will have a field day, as will engineers and to an extent mages. Seriously, ther
e's no cover anywhere except perhaps on the bridge, this is just a flatter Unholy Faith.

Aesthetics look really lazy, especially considering what you're capable of doing. Harvest is way too detailed to the point of being distracting, and you may well be trying to move away from that sort of style, but IMO you've moved too far in the opposite direction. The theme is boring, it's just standard grass/wood/stone, and there's not really anything to show that it's "Nordic". I also don't count restaurants as a theme because they can look like anything - you can just put some tables and chairs in a structure and voila, restaurant. So, at the moment, there's no clear theme and no adventurous block palette like in Harvest. Boring.

Some other things:
- glass panes are laggy for people on lower end computers; there's a reason they have a history of being restricted in WE. The coloured ones also don't look as great as you think they do.
- None of the blue clays look blue from afar, so don't use them as indicators to show which side you're on.
- The single-block flagroom looks gross from behind
- Using //replace to make your floor look detailed just makes it look amateurish. If you use structures instead, it won't look empty, it won't look as messy and horrible as it does now, and as a bonus you'll create some much needed cover.
- The lily pads are nice but you're not going to notice them while playing, it seems like you've made them the focus of the map to the detriment of gameplay.
- The flagroom is just various shades of gray. People are going to be spending a lot of time in there, why not make it look nice?

One more thing, try not be sarcastic to people giving feedback even if it's not the feedback you wanted and even if you're holding an existing grudge. Just makes you look like a twat.

 

Okay.

The red path is the path most people will take. The glass arches provide some archer cover, but it still funnels most players into a single 10-block-wide space that will be hard to get through.

The yellow paths are all at an even level, so it will be easy to be hit into the water by a mage (or any other player), and archers can easily snipe players stuck in the water.

The orange path is the most reasonable path for anyone actually capping to take, but there isn't much cover there, either.

Overall, I think it needs more navigability and archer cover.
Suggestions for fixes:
- Glass does cause some lag issues, replace most of it with solid-colored blocks. I think you can leave some glass for aesthetics as long as it's pretty minimal and on the outside of the solid blocks. The solid blocks will also provide more archer cover because the blocks are thicker. It will also make your cover more obvious to people providing feedback on here.
- Change your lilypad paths into thicker, solid paths. This will make the route more obvious, widening a bit can help prevent falling off and make this a legitimate choice for travel.
- Make more options for going back and forth between orange, red, and yellow areas.
- Change the glass trees in the water to solid pillars with connecting arches or roofing of some sort. You can add this height in the middle without being too soldier OP as long as there is a wide enough gap between your tall objects and the flag room (and a couple ways up). Make the soldiers touch the ground for a little bit before reaching the flag room to give recovery a chance.
- Keep repeating the triangular arch design that you started on the sides for more cover.

Here, i tried to make a pic of what I think could work. White is cover.



I like the map concept and I think you could make these changes without changing the style too much.

I totally just discovered your tunnels on each side

also, your sponge system under the water
like, it's really interesting. you can fall in at just about any point and wander to a sponge within a couple blocks

i like the vine decor you started.

 

It looks good! I like it! But I have to agree with @Xelasi.

Good Luck!

 

Please, water and lillypads are just death