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Idea Is Mage OP?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by lasertagfighter, May 8, 2016.

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Is Mage Op?

  1. Mage is OP

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  2. Mage is UP

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  3. Mage is Fair

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  4. Mage requires a Nerf

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  5. I don't really care.

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  1. lasertagfighter

    lasertagfighter Well-Known Member

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    Might as well make a mini series for fun.

    So... Is it? Of course if you have skill it is nearly impossible to die with it, but, well let me explain.
    The Mage has 3 full armor points, 6 half armor points, that has a 24% damage reduction with a addition with protection II that will equal to an outstanding 26.4% damage reduction, I think. Also it has fire prot as well as feather falling, not much use for each, but helps minorly.

    Next, the damage: Damage spell. The damage spell is highly annoying and devastating at the same time, it deals 10 damage, 5 hearts of damage, with 1 second cooldown per shot. So it's not as devastating as a ninja, which can deal 10 hearts of damage in 1 second. Hopefully there can be a minor nerf to reduce knock back or something.

    Flame spell can be menacing with one shot to deal 2.5 hearts of true damage + fire damage which is 4 hearts of true damage (I think). Has a cooldown of 3 seconds, but can aid pyros. Imo, I think it's fine.

    Lightning spell: one of the most useful spells ever, one strike and the enemies can be falling off cliffs and or drowning in lava. Deals 2.5 hearts of true damage, but can knock players about 10 to 15 blocks I think, also if timed perfectly, you can launch enemies into the air for a impeccable effect of damage. Has a cool down of 6 seconds or 7.

    Freeze spell is fairly annoying to either freeze someone or to be frozen, deals no damage, except it can one-shot assassins when their ability is active. Useful to stop a whole team from passing a certain point. Lasts for 5 seconds and has a cooldown of 8 seconds I'm pretty sure.

    Lastly we have the heal spell. When used, gives you regen IV or V for 4 to 6 seconds that heals like 20 hearts. Has a cooldown of 8 seconds or 9. Also the Mage has infinite amount of abilities!

    I would like to point out a recommendation: if you are soloing a Mage as like a elf, soldier, archer, or a few other classes, you might just die for nothing.

    Don't fight a Mage solo unless you want to die for nothing. ~lasertagfighter 2016

    So what is it?
     
    #1 lasertagfighter, May 8, 2016
  2. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    Are you going to make a post like this for every class? I would like to see one for elf.
     
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    #2 jarboyp, May 8, 2016
  3. lasertagfighter

    lasertagfighter Well-Known Member

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    Only the ones that are questionable.
     
    #3 lasertagfighter, May 8, 2016
  4. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I don't think mage is OP, I just find it really annoying (mostly when I'm capping). Due to its range, its tricky to avoid a mage that wants to kill you, especially since it can do the freeze spell and lightning you away from where its going. If you try to kill it, you'll usually succeed, but you'll be very low on health, so you'll have to respawn if you want to stand a chance capping.
     
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    #4 SoCool21, May 8, 2016
  5. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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    It's your choice to target mages or not. Also, the damage spell now is better than before (distance wise).
     
    #5 Ducksfan101, May 8, 2016
  6. CrystaliteRyuko

    CrystaliteRyuko Well-Known Member

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    its op if u use it right. Everyone says they just damage spam, if they do that, then no it's not op.
     
    #6 CrystaliteRyuko, May 8, 2016
  7. YourAverageSoda

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    @Ducksfan101 get away from @19lara97 's vodka
     
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    #7 YourAverageSoda, May 8, 2016
  8. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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    better meaning not as annoying from the range
     
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    #8 Ducksfan101, May 8, 2016
  9. Cardonation

    Cardonation CTF JMOD | CMS Leader

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    There was one time where I was fighting Mage as Soldier, it took around 2 minutes to finally kill it but I eventually pulled through (every time I got soooo close to killing it, but then it backs away and uses heal spell >_<). There is a difference between OP and annoying
     
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    #9 Cardonation, May 9, 2016
  10. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    #10 ExtremeEvoboost, May 9, 2016
  11. iWatchPaintDry

    iWatchPaintDry Well-Known Member

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    Ok... so I hate mage with a passion but im also a fair guy. Mage isnt OP in general but just in certain situations. I beleive mage is among the easiest classes to be good at but among the top 3 hardest to become an expert at (only 5-6 mages to me are considered heavily-skilled). I believe that we need to adjust anti-pvp classes (mage especially) aswell as instakill (assassin and archer), and camping classes (engi,dwarf,necro). To me these classes can all be op (exept necro) because of the little amount of skill required to play effective. This thread is about mage so ill stick to talking about mage.

    This class was a mistake from the start, coming up with a class that doesnt even have a pvp weapon is just asking for spam. Mages today spam damage spell SOOO much. The cooldown is reasonable but there needs to be an adjustment (maybe something like dwarf where u need to hold right-click to gain xp) so instead of holding down right and spamming, a mage will have to hold block to regain then go back to shoot. Mages need some sort of other quick spell, because the reality is many mages cant hotkey, or arent strategic so they resort to spamming. If u give them other options then they may use them for quick damage. Another thing is that mages are ridiculously anti-pvp. Whether u are in close quarters or in a wide open map a semi-good mage can easily sustain in combat. In open maps they have room to avoid u and can keep spamming or if they know how 2 play mage can do the damage > Freeze> Heal > Fire combo (im not a mage main but i think thats a thing). And in close combat they can easily spam u into walls like in the VoR underground hallway. To me mage is a class really only used for 2 things:
    1. Being annoying
    2. Targeting archers
    It has no real role like most classes have in ctf matches. It is the perfect combonation of things to result in the ultimate annoying class. The average mage is like an archer bowspammer yet they rarely get called out which perplexes me. Why an archer (who still has to aim, pull back, and fire quickly) gets called out for spam much more than a mage who just holds right click. Dont get me wrong bowspam is stupid and annoying but so is spell spam.

    But being an expert mage is so hard, knowing that u need to resist spam, plus playing objectivley, aswell as utilizing all the spells rather than 1. Its a hard class to master and i dont mind dying to mage when a mage obviously knows how to play mage. I like dying to a good spell combo :>

    Thats it.
    Also creds to @aRandomBob157 @hotintexas @chikincows @lasertagfighter @Doggies_ @junebugulas @EliHatesYou @KRiderClei @thgstarburst, @ScarryPerry, @DimensionZL for playing mage respectively I tip my hat to you all.
     
    #11 iWatchPaintDry, May 9, 2016
  12. CrystaliteRyuko

    CrystaliteRyuko Well-Known Member

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    *looks up* Eh uh..
    *looks at tags* Excuse me where's my name D:
     
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    #12 CrystaliteRyuko, May 10, 2016
  13. TWC123

    TWC123 Active Member

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    I agree with Crystalite.....
     
    #13 TWC123, May 11, 2016
  14. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    But you arent good at mage D:
     
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    #14 pandanielxd, May 11, 2016
  15. haydnkan121

    haydnkan121 Active Member

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    what savage_banter :^]
     
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    #15 haydnkan121, May 11, 2016
  16. CrystaliteRyuko

    CrystaliteRyuko Well-Known Member

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    I really hope you weren't saying I wasn't good at mage.. JUST BECAUSE IM BAD DOESNT MEAN I SHOULDNT GET RECOGNITION.
     
    #16 CrystaliteRyuko, May 11, 2016
  17. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    i msged twc not you
     
    #17 pandanielxd, May 11, 2016
  18. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    where am i at? do i need to beat yo butt with mage lol.
     
    #18 TheMaelstromsEye, May 11, 2016
  19. TWC123

    TWC123 Active Member

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    Yeah because I stopped for 5 months and returned to it a week ago, I won't get as good as I was back in McPvP days or early Brawl days in 1 week mate :stuck_out_tongue:

    And if you really knew me back then, then you wouldn't say that, or even now because you should have noticed that I wasn't using mage for 5 months.
     
    #19 TWC123, May 11, 2016
  20. iWatchPaintDry

    iWatchPaintDry Well-Known Member

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    U are ther kind sir if u would look where i tagged the names :I
     
    #20 iWatchPaintDry, May 11, 2016
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