Idea Quick Fix-it Thread

Thanks for all the help everyone - we have a good list of things to work on. Hopefully the game is just a tad bit more enjoyable when this is all pushed out.

If your idea wasn't added to the list it's because it was either too big for this thread or not something I think would work too well at the moment. If the same comment gets repeated many times it will be added to the list or discussed further in the thread.
Finalized List
Archer | Bow’s punch : Changed to punch 1.
-> Will change to half-draw back = punch 1, full draw back = punch 2 if needed.

Chemist | Potions : 12 damage potions, 8 poison potions, slowness is replaced with weakness, 5 fire res potions that last 30 seconds.
-> Will continue to edit potions and times slightly as needed.

Dwarf | Leveling/Immunity : Dwarf levels cap at 10 and Immunity is only received once the levels are maxed out.

Elf | Arrow count : 16 arrows, Earth Element take 2 arrows per use.

Elf | Heath : Chestplate and Boots gain Protection II.

Engineer | Pickaxe : Less health on the turret.

Necro | Fence : Change fence to wood.

Necro | Pickaxe : Gains knockback 1

Necro | Mobs : Better mobs - 1 steak is removed.
-> Mob cap of 5 (will buff if needed), new mob eggs, spawn rate is increased.

Medict | Regen : Medic overrides Chemist, Mage and Engineer regen.

Medic | Webs : Webs are breakable (same speed for any main weapon) by enemy team.
-> Webs disappearing when thrown at teammates is removed.

Match Server | Switch : Switching in enabled on the Match server for all players.

Pyro | Fire : Fire lasts less time when inflicted by a bow (3 1/2 hearts) (AND) Pyro gets x (25-30) arrows.
-> Frenzy takes 2 right clicks to activate - will be tested.
-> Will edit fire damage as needed to balance with the fire resistance potion.

End Game | Scoreboard : Can see game scores after the timer hits 0.

Maps | Engineer Camping : Sign system is added for an easier way to remove turret flag camping/abusable spots.
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Final note! When the update goes live, feel free to leave feedback here or message me. Please do not freak out or get super annoyed. These changes were designed to be easily fixable so there's no need to feel like you're going to be stuck with these for 2 years.
Thanks for participating everyone!

 

Interesting, I wonder how that would play out - I suppose it would make it less spammable. That, or possible lowering it to punch 1, or punch 1 for a half way drawn bow, punch 2 for a full drawn bow.

Hm.. not sure how to fix that, could just be a bug or poor placement by the engineer?

Yeah. If it's different like an axe or something, maybe nom can edit it so they have the same breaking speed as a sword. But ideally, the main weapon of any class would be able to break a web at the same speed.

I'd like to see the water element get some love. But I think elf in general needs a bit of fixing to make it better as a whole, which we'll probably work on later as well.

As for assassin, I know a lot of assassins like to fake by hitting you with a sword or the redstone and make you think they used it so I'm hesitant. Although someone mentioned that's it's really hard to see assassin's switch between anyway. I agree there should be a more obvious way to tell if assassin used their redstone. A message might work, perhaps think of more ways to make it more obvious and let me know.

Not sure about this, because it drastically changes how ninja's capture (although I also hate it, can't be bias ^^). However, I think ninja capping could be it's own discussion which I'd like to hold at a later date, so hold onto this and we can discuss it then.

Not sure about this one, again, just trying to make it more obvious that the assassin did something might be a good minor option right now.

As in, more or less, reduced always confuses me with mana? Shifting to regain mana is kind of interesting. Would be funny to see soldiers shifting mid-air to gain mana back. It would be a way to allow soldiers to be kind of in control of their regen which I like, but can't be used too much in the middle of a fight. Interesting idea.

Same with ninja capping, I want to hold a full on discussion about medic's healing and role in the game at a later date as well, so hold onto this. I think the change will be a bit more drastic as medic healing ability is such an important part of the game.

I don't know the extent of what we'll do with archer, again, probably another discussion (plan to have a whole series of these, one class at a time so please be patient ^^). Headshots also control the game, and while they're annoying, with the current game, they're almost necessary to break stalemates sometimes, so I'm hesitant to change much without further discussion - even though it's a really minor change.

This is an interesting idea. Would make the flint and steel and bow more necessary, which I wanted to keep from the beginning. I'll see what others have to say about this.

Dwarf will get a rework.

Engie will get something done. Would be interesting to see engineers not able to place items until so many seconds after getting hit, but it already feels like there are so many restrictions (for good cause) that's is difficult to give them more.

Reluctant because the mana, I find, is already really annoying. Besides, they can only throw three at a time which isn't a huge deal, and usually doesn't do too much. The mana kinda feels like cheating anyway, so I'd like to try and re-do the chemist potion/system if possible. I'll see what others think, though.

Assassin will probably get a rework, I think this change would be too drastic. As I mentioned, I think for now, a minor change would be to make it more obvious when an assassin uses their redstone

Pearl damage could be an interesting change. Effects ninja capping without changing the actual mechanic so hitting a ninja actually does something. I'll hold onto this one.

Hm... not sure about this. Mage is pretty weak on a general scale, just very annoying in long halls and open spaces.

Wouldn't mind changing the fence. Reluctant to make them spawn more frequently because so many mobs are annoying. Perhaps a cap would suffice, however, necro is getting an overhaul eventually so, maybe we should just wait.

Hm.. interesting minor tweak. Not sure how this would play out, could be interesting to test it, though.

No! Ahahahahaa, played

Phew, that was a lot so far, nice guys.
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All right, I’m adding the ideas I felt would work/need more discussion into two lists. I’ve left some out that I wasn’t too sure about for several reasons, however, if they continue to be brought up I will add them to the list.

Primary List
->These are all the ideas I thought would be the easiest to change and discuss without changing to game too drastically. Still only suggestions for now – just organizing a bit.
Medic | Webs : Webs are breakable (same speed for any weapon) by either team.

Elf | Arrow count : 16 arrows, Earth Element take 2 arrows per use.

Archer | Bow’s punch : Changed to punch 1 (OR) Punch 1 at half-draw, punch 2 at full-draw.

Assassin | Assassinate : Make it more obvious that assassin has activated Assassinate.

Pyro | Frenzy : Frenzy doesn’t set people on fire. (Maybe as a trade off, frenzy does extra initial explosion damage, or extra damage at the end of the frenzy).

Engineer | Pickaxe : Remove knockback.

Ninja | Pearl Damage : Increased pearl damage with flag in inventory.

Necro | Fence : Change fence to wood.

Secondary List
->These are all the ideas I felt needed more discussion and wasn’t too sure if they would be too drastic or weren’t the best change for right now.
Ninja | Pearl : Cannot take the flag when pearl is not in inventory.

Soldier | Mana : Mana is reduced (?), shifting regains mana faster.

Necro | Pickaxe : Gains knockback 1, better mobs – spawn faster (maybe add a cap so there’s not an overabundance of mobs).

Elf | Heath : 20 hearts but 2 less steak.
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To everyone that's new to the thread, let me know what you think about these ones. There are more ideas in the thread so feel free to read the whole thing, or continue to suggest your own ideas. Thanks!

 

I mean I'm not a fan, but I hear people complaining (and I see it too) that the bow and flint aren't really used, pyro's just kinda walk around now. And no, the "experienced players" don't do that line doesn't really apply here because if a pyro misses, there isn't a ton of cons because they can just rack up the frenzy, or if they have it they can use it. There would probably be some trade off, it wouldn't be a straight up thing but yeah. Kinda want to rethink pyro again but that's just me and for later.

Eh, chemist needs buffs to make it a support class. Although it may be changed at a later date, we probably won't get rid of it.

 

I'll see if I can get that fixed. We can try both ways with elf health and see what it does if that is something people are ok to try with.

I'll write that glitch down, I keep forgetting to ask nom about it.

For now, archer will probably keep it's punch, but punch 1 or a change in punch would definitely be effective for a minor tweak.

Well we don't do that, and they will be reworked eventually.