Elf rant... (will they ever fix elf?!)

Lel magic shield thingy. I actually an one of the ones who doesn't think that elf needs a rework. But that's only imo.

 

Elf is pretty damn good in any situation if used properly. You need to find a balance of mobility, power, and defense. Elf is being buffed soon anyway. It'll receive Prot II on most of it's armor and gain an additional 6 arrows.

 

The water arrow is pretty useful in capping, pyro killing, and meelee fights. From what I can tell, it cuts damage by half. But yea elf needs to be fixed. The water arrow doesn't always extinguish players, the shield is straight up broken by only reflecting a few projectiles, and the water arrow does need a buff imo.

 

No.

 

Elf is nothing more than a bandaid fix to many things that CTFers hated, and even thought it has some usefulness, it only shows in the most specific of situations. If you want a class that is more useful and effective, elf is either going to have to be buffed to hell, or completely reworked.

 

Is the fire arrow still a thing? Coulda sworn that elf had a fire arrow that didn't light people on fire.

 

Elf used to be able to set the enemy team on fire from a reflected pyro arrow but it's broke. Along with pretty much every projectile except archer's arrows.

 

WHAT IF an elf shoots an arrow to another elf , but that elf blocks it blocks it and so does the elf that shoots it
WILL IT KEEP DEFLECTING UNTIL THE FORCEFIELD IS DOWN???????

 

Okay aside from this post giving me severe brain damage (as if I didn't have enough already),
If you shoot at an elf, and they shield, it'll reflect, but if you block that arrow coming back at you, it won't reflect.
There is no way to have an infinite loop.
This also is the same for enderpearls (@b0squet)

Correct me if I'm wrong, I probably am.

 

That's true for every projectile. I swear that it wasn't like that when elf first came out but I may be remembering wrong.

 

Okay, time to spend way too long quoting messages on a thread that really doesn't have much effect on anything. I also frown at the fact that this person has come to try to steal my role as elf ranter.

Spoiler: My response to OP ^-^

It's playable, you'd be wrong on that front. But yeah you got a point with the other stuff.

Please, necro has infinitely better armor for escaping flag rooms. If you can heavy cap, or medic cap without using webs, you can probably necro cap (I haven't actually tried though... I know what I'm doing in my next CTF game).

Pure element is quite lethal when you learn to use it well, which does take lots of practice. (I can give you a tip, though: first shot doesn't have to be fully charged.) Pure Element was not meant to be long-ranged like archer.

*wind element

It's fine as it is, too annoying to other players if anything. It's a very good thing that it requires direct contact to slow down opponents; a five-block radius of crippling slowness is terrible.

I'm pretty sure the idea of Water Element was to make it slow you down to give pyros a better chance at killing you, instead of letting you run free like a fireproof medic. AoE is pretty terrible though, I'll give you that.

It's fine as is--or at least, as it's supposed to be, since it's broken as crap in its projectile reflecting.

As Kev says (see below), it's apparently just a band-aid class with its "counters" to soldier and pyro. Though its features don't seem to point to any specific role, elf's actual role seems to be flag capping, as demonstrated by every skilled elf in the game.

*cough*

In my time playing elf, I never realized it was any more crap than I thought it was when I started playing it. What I did learn the more I played it was how I could use that crap and turn it into good gameplay. (I'm nothing like a pro, though; talk to @GalaThundR about that area c: )

Yes, it was a pretty sucky band-aid fix. But, as seems to happen with class fixes in CTF, it gave the game something that the developers weren't expecting--at least in my opinion, that would be another capping class. Aside from ninja, since ninja capping is a rather unique way of capping (to say the least), elf and soldier are the only classes that are not bound to constant ground-travel, so their capping methods can be more creative and difficult to recover off of. In soldier's case, this is a pain in the butt especially when they have a medic or five. But elf is much squishier, and can far more easily be recovered off of, particularly when its arrows are running low. This makes it a non-OP alternative to soldier, and I think it's a nice thing to have some options in mobile capping classes that don't rely on surprise enderpearl attacks.
(tl;dr: elf is a non-OP alternative to soldier)

When elf is buffed/reworked, I quite hope that it'll be more focused on capping, as that is really the only role it's good for. (I hope they don't buff the crap too much out of Pure Element; the last thing we need is another killing class.)

You're exactly correct. c:

It wasn't until a few months ago (I think) that you were unable to have the infinite-loop projectile reflections. I kind of enjoyed those, though; I liked having ping-pong fights with other elves. :3

 

I might have a strange definition of fun, but more than half of the fun for me while playing elf is the fact that it's so much better than all the one-shot kills I can get as archer (which I almost always played till I started elf).

 

Hey winter,
I just logged in,
And this is crazy,
But I'd like to see those Elf plans,
So post them maybe?

 

*extremely heavy sigh*