Which?

Where's the medic teaming rants? Am I the only one that can't stand how much it takes away the fairness in a pvp situation? :/

 

oh, the guy who made this cringey ****?

that boomdrone?

I also have FAR more forum ratings than you so git gud scrub

 

ikr that's one of the most annoying things to come across (especially when playing objectively). But clearly most annoying thing are randees that just make you have all your steak drained by the time you reach where you need to be to do something important.

 

Aye, I am less superior then the all mighty forum being know as the mighty iMuffles that is said to lurk the forums and try to annoy everyone who is near it. Please teach me how to be more stubborn and arrogant, I must learn your pitiful ways.

Anywho, I'm gonna be the better person here and end this insignificant argument/forum size competition/whatever what we having.

 

hm, i thought you said:

can i take it that you have accepted the fact that you have no argument and that you are an absolute randy?

 

was i talking to you?

 

Though they're not even close to trying intentionally, believe it or not those randies are actually indirectly playing objectively by weakening your ability to objectively support your team, thus relatively strengthening their team. yay, long smart-sounding sentences

 

You know what I find funny is that Necro is leading with 42 percent of the vote, so then they will give it a rework and everyone will complain about it once it's finished <:

 

Hi my name is Admiral and I read none of this but I agree with @pookeythekid.

 

Back to the real topic now,

I agree certain classes should be nerfed and I agree some classes shouldnt be nerfed.

I believe ninja, chemist, dwarf, and engineer should be nerfed/reworked due to several reasons:

Ghost/prem capping for ninja just needs to be bannable or removed as it completely ruins the point of defense as all you need is a 1.5 second window of them distracted and you get away, and unless a ninja is at mid or at your goal waiting, you most likely cap, and if you are low on hearts, just pass it to a tankier class.

Chemist: because lets just admit it here, it is a better dwarf in some ways, and basically ninja with armor and pots. Chemist should not be able to out damage or deal as much damage as ninjas, should not be tankier then dwarf when it comes to 1 on 1 survivability(lets face it, dwarves cant get many hits in unless you are right up to them due to their slowness 1 and hunger.) and it seems people forget chemist was made to be a support class, not a one man army capping class.

Dwarf: because when it reaches lvl 5-10 it becomes unkillable unless a group assault and assassins. No other description needed.

Engineer: because its engineer, enough said.

I dont feel like archers instakill should happen anytime soon or ever, and lets face it, ctf will be dead before archer gets instakill nerfed.

I also am conflicted because nerfing classes only makes other classes seem more op then they really are. I believe buffing every class would be the way to go that way they are all op in their own ways and it doesnt make it seem one class is super broken.

I could go into more detail, but i just got back from visiting family, so im a tad tired.

 

You know, you guys could just buff all the classes to dwarf level and make the game way more fun and interesting. Just a suggestion.

 

So from what I can tell. you want mobility nerfs across the board, rampant snowballing, and instakills around every corner. Great suggestion! @NomNuggetNom you know what to do.

 

You and iMuffles just cannot handle any ideas that contradict your "perfect" ctf which neither of you have made a topic about expressing said "idea" of yours which you dont actually have therefore making you a hypocritical pile of garbage trashing each others ideas because they disagree with yours.

 

Not true. I have my perfect idea of ctf, but I am not going to post it because of 4 reasons.
1. This is a dead game and my version of ctf would take hours to properly post about.
2. Criticism of people doing the same thing your talking about
3. Criticism born of misunderstanding of the post
4. Criticism from people who actually don't like what my CTF would be pushing towards (I think "snowballing" or progression systems has a place in ctf when they reward something worthwhile unlike dwarf and necro which rewards doing nothing)
I'm not being hypocritical. I welcome others to not post for these reasons as well. I'm seeing holes in what people are saying and addressing them. If you see holes in what I post about feel free to address it, and if I think that what your saying might have some merit to it than I'll respond to further the discussion. This is what the forums are for. It's not a matter of trashing other people's opinions to further my agenda, it's a matter of getting to understand what they are trying to get at, trying to make them see why there opinion may be flawed, and maybe even learn something myself.

My words are very purposeful, and sometimes I'm trying to illicit a certain type of response, but I think it's far from trashing. My response here for example:

Shows just how silly "Dwarf's level" is in practice, but I said "from what I can tell" this is a cue to explain why this isn't what he meant. Where as this response is trashing:

there is no remnant of discussion here only a request for submission or an invitation for further aggression.

 

um this is kinda ridiculous. Just because they haven't actually posted any thread about their idea of a "perfect ctf" (as you put it) doesn't actually mean they don't have any idea at all. Furthermore it wouldn't be mutually exclusive even if they didn't have an opinion, they're just expressing the flaws with another person's opinion. Plenty of people could disagree with them but what you just said is total rubbish

 

If people followed this guide to forum debates, maybe CTF would be somewhere by now.

 

In my opinion even if the classes get nerfed people are still gonna complain, every class could get a nerf or buff and people are still gonna complain about it. There's something wrong with every class

Mage: Spell spam
Medic: unlimited cobwebs
Archer: Instant kill and knock back
Soldier: wall climb
Chemist: It's just Over powered
Assassin: instant kill
Ninja: egg spam
elf: Earth spell spam
Necro: way to under powered
Engineer: It's the engineer
Heavy: It's a little OP
Pyro: Frenzy
Dwarf: It's the Dwarf
This is just my opinion.