Buffs vs Nerfs: How do we make CTF more enjoyable.

I honestly think changes are better than nerfs or buffs. If you hard nerf or hard buff a class you have to compensate by making changes to further balance it.

 

But a change either nerfs it or buffs it?

 

I agree that "buffing" is the better option of the two. First of all, when considering the owners of a nerfed class, I think it's unfair that those players have to become forcibly accustomed to new playstyles. If we assume that there's going to be balance in either paradigm (buffs or nerfs), I'd want to feel jubilance rather than disappointment. More importantly though, CTF's signature fast-paced gameplay has eroded over the introduction of certain nerfs. I think that's what makes CTF particularly unique - the game shouldn't turn into a battle of which side has more Medic teams.

Albeit this is personal, I would want Engineer's regenerator to be able to replenish items again. I don't have anything against Medics, but it plays too large of a role.

 

I agree that we should buff classes and fix some issues(i.e ghost capping). I wouldnt mind engineers cake being like it used to be. Pyro needs to be buffed again to counter the heavy armor classes, especially chemists. Etc

 

Pyro really is good enough, have you played it?

 

You know, I've played a lot of CTF. And I've seen that after the more recent nerfs, Most chemists have dropped off the map, while Ninjas, heavies, and soldiers increase. Pyro and dwarf are less integral to defense and in turn are less thought of as required with defense. Only hardcore support medics ever play it unless they are switching to flag camp, and even then its not very good anymore. Then again, Elf, who got buffed decently, still has very little players who use it; although that might be a difference in difficulty, not that its a bad class. So IMO, Buffs are better, but changes are the best of the bunch.
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Perfect buff right here:
Make zombies not useless.

 

Have you been in a game where a pyro cant kill a chemist even when using frenzy and 5 people around the mage, also soldiers just escaping. Pyros instakill was a necessary evil because it forced people to have to work together, now one chemist can basically just walk in and get away with flag.

 

no they cant

 

change everything to like it was about 2 or 3 years ago when i started on mcctf
there the classes were the best imo
(missing mcpvp ;-; )

 

You must not be on a ton, because I see chemists escape from a 10+ person flag 90-97% of the time

 

lol

 

A change that basically makes the gameplay different than what it was. So that each player can interpret it different based on their playstyle.

 

Here's how to make CTF more enjoyable:
Step one: scorch the f*ckin earth that it stands upon and salt the ground so as to prevent it from ever resurging.

Step two: rebuild the entire game from the ground up, beginning with 14 new classes that are all specifically built around the mechanics of the other classes and removing instantkills / heals entirely.

Step 3: build new maps by having the map makers be a group of players who have played every new class at least 3 times each so as to have a balanced build with a lessened risk of single-class OP ness

Step four:???? Some magic sh*t to bring back a yuuuuge playerbase

Step five: profit

And finally, the secret step 6: stop dreaming, realize CTF is bad, and go play a better game.

 

Give necro the much needed attention (like making the spawners actually useful)

 

the zombies need more power or you should be able to buff them
than the necro would have its power back

 

Get archer a better sword :3