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Is CTF Boring?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Avivox, Jul 18, 2016.

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  1. Avivox

    Avivox Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only one that doesn't think CTF is that boring??? I see a lot of comments/threads about changes and how to make it more fun (not saying that I couldn't use a few reworks) but I just don't think its boring. I know many of you play for a couple hours a day (that might be the reason but idk) but I usually play less than an hour a day which makes me enjoy it more since I don't get that much time to play it. When I can play it, its much more fun than sitting there for hours on end playing Minecraft. Many people say that teams and calls are the only reason they are still playing. I play by my self all the time and I still find it very enjoyable. Please comment below because I want to see if anyone else thinks its still fun!

    NOTE: Any mods out there, you or someone better fix ctf and the rest of brawl because if it keeps om going like this, everyone will leave. Thanks for reading.
     
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  2. Trebr

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  3. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    if you think ctf is not fun leave lol
     
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  4. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    I don't really find it that fun anymore because my main classes got nerfd - chemist and medic, soldier I find really hard atm idk why and ninja isn't really fun now
     
  5. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Watching paint dry is more fun than playing Minecraft.
     
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  6. Avivox

    Avivox Well-Known Member

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    Try out new ones xD
    tru
     
  7. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    1) busy irl atm
    2) building is more fun atm
    3) I love mini walls
     
  8. ekali

    ekali Bannēd for DoX

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    i've never really played it (might have back on mcpvp years ago lol) but it sounds like a cool concept.
     
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  9. Nephren

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    Its interesting in team matches.
    other than that I usually leave after 20 minutes
     
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  10. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Its certainly can get boring after a While when one team is comprised of archers, assassins and engies. And thats coming from an engi.
     
  11. 19Cameron91

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    I use to play CTF all the time, but so much anymore. It's gotten rather stale for me. It's probably because I'm practically addicted to Wild West now.
    I'd like to see my favorite class, necro, get an update. Everything listed here was added in the Tweak Update, but not the better mobs for necro.
     
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  12. Lewka

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    Yeah @Daniellll , let me break it to you that CTF is boring to most of the community. How do I know? When people thought teams weren't going to come back last year as there were some issues to making a match server, people were considering to just quit, as the game alone really isn't fun and it pisses people off. CTF on its own, without teams, is garbage and dull. P sure no one would last 10 minutes on their own today without being on a skype call or talking to some friends on CTF, and of course teams.
     
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  13. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    Teams and matches are da only fun part tbh
     
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  14. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    Firstly, I would, and I do enjoy the game, so this doesn't work in every case.

    There's absolutely no doubt the game isn't as fun as it used to be, and I think that there's a few reasons for that:
    First is being the "nostalgia" effect. When you remember things about the past, people tend to remember the good memories over the bad, which means that past versions of CTF would feel better than how it is currently today. You've experienced good and bad things about CTF both in the past and the present, but you've forgotten about those events in the past, or at the very least forgot about some of the negative emotions you felt at that specific time, which means that compared to the negative experiences you felt today, they don't feel quite as bad. Many people talk about the terrible maps today, but fewer people mention the game breaking maps of the past, like unholy faith or the older versions of halo. Equally they don't do a proper comparison of the old maps to the new, and I think the results would be surprising if people were to properly look into it and come up with a proper opinion on it. This isn't to say that this means that CTF isn't in fact worse than it originally was, but it does somewhat affect perceptions.

    Secondly being the new map waves. Despite what I said in the paragraph above, I think there's little doubt that the maps on CTF aren't quite what they used to be. CTF maps used to be more gameplay oriented, but since brawl they've prioritised aesthetics overall. This has had a massively dampening effect on the game. These aesthetically pleasing maps (which aren't always aesthetically pleasing, I'm not sure too many people are a fan of tuscan city) are absolutely horrible for gameplay. It's pretty obvious they are, given all the maps from the first map wave on brawl are now gone, and many of the maps from the newer waves are having to be altered (like orchide cascades, tuscan city and harvest). They simply don't have the staying power of the old maps. It's really a testament to how terrible the new maps are when these are removed when maps as bad as ship battle still exist in rotation simply because of popularity for another reason (in the case of ship battle, archers and engis I have no doubt). The new maps have even less likeability than SHIP BATTLE, that really does put it into perspective. I haven't seen many teams using the new maps in matches either, which also goes a way to prove the point

    Thirdly, the gamemode is old. Popular opinion is fickle, and things change over time, sometimes very rapidly. I think it's fair to say CTF's golden age is pretty over, with popular opinion moving on to new minigames. It's not to say it's still not got an appeal to it, but much like the original hide and seek minigame, it was very popular at the start, then people got bored of playing the same thing over and over and moved on to something new. Same thing has happened to ctf, and frankly there hasn't been enough updates and new gamechanging additions to make the game much different to how it was originally, especially recently.

    The lack of updates, and following of community opinion has also lead to the detriment of popularity. I've said this before, but the CTF server ideas section is bigger than some gamemodes in general, and yet the number of updates (and lack of quality updates too) has been rather none existent. I can understand that the staff aren't out to "get us" as some seem to believe, but that doesn't really mean enough is being done. The map updates that have been introduced have been bad, and half of the updates to the classes have been unpopular. This effects both tweaks and major overhauls. I get you can't please everyone, and someone is going to be unhappy irrespective of whatever you do, but it seems with some updates these days there's more backlash than there should really be (like this latest tweak, with pyro instakill taking 2 clicks)

    Then there's also the unholy lag and gamebreaks. The lag recently has been bad, and I know nom has it on his agenda to fix, along with a list of bugs, which I hope he corrects as soon as possible. Unfortunately it's gotten to the point where I'm no longer surprised when I hear of these issues. Before it used to be a relative rarity, nowadays it seems to be happening every month or so. I get keeping a server running perfectly constantly is pretty much impossible, but there seems to be more of these slip ups than there really should be. I doubt this is doing anything for the credibility of the game, as nobody really wants to be playing with lag or bugs (unless they can exploit them that is)

    There are a million other reasons I could probably go into, but the upshot of it is that CTF isn't what it used to be, and quite a few people have moved on because of it
     
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  15. TheMaelstromsEye

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    The path ctf is going rn is going to end up with it dying relatively fast. Yes its boring, heck, the only reason im still here is because everyone wants me gone.

    Maps lately have been only aesthetically pleasing, the gameplay is terrible. The nerfs as well have just increased exploits with classes. Mainly ghost capping for ninja and chemist/medic teaming and medic/medic teaming.

    Pyros nerf upset defense entirely giving every offensive class a huge buff when ninja, chemist and soldier didnt need a nerf as well. Ghost capping hasnt been fixed yet. Ninja is terrible at recovery unless the ninja is godly with ping, etc. Theres a ton of issues with ctf that arent being looked into or they just dont care.
     
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  16. Avivox

    Avivox Well-Known Member

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    The one person who actually agrees with me
     
  17. Lewka

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    I'll agree that it is not the case every time that CTF isn't boring for everyone, but generally quite a fair bit of people don't find it as enjoyable as it used to. You seem to fit into the small minority that still don't find it boring.

    I think it is a bit ironic that people preferred the old maps over the newer ones simply because many classes were op in the old maps and each game on unholy faith would last about 15-20 minutes, making a tense atmosphere unlike newer maps.

    CTF's golden age was when it had wool so yeah it is pretty much over (meme)
    jk apart however I certainly think it's over because of the community and not in a negative way either. Most of the community has now matured and moved over through the time of playing video games and those that haven't are the remainders. Newer players don't find it as amusing to fight more skilled more experienced and older players which is why the community has decreased in size overall. (Rip 2012-2013 best years of ctf).
     
  18. HaHaGetLost

    HaHaGetLost I hope one day you choke on the s*** you talk.

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    Teams are why I'm still here. I really only care about matches now because regular ctf is very very toxic.
     
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  19. Recovs

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    Watching Sea Monkeys grow is more fun than CTF.
     
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  20. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Agreed
     
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