The way CTF is going for Brawl. (Geared towards Admins/Devs).

I fully agree with everything said here. CTF was also the first server I ever played on, and I really miss the old classes. I would personally be fine if you kept everything, except for pyro. Pyro used to be my favorite class to play as, and I know I speak for a bunch of players when I say the new pyro is a waste of money and time.

 

ok

 

i hope you are trolling

 

holy **** can you not use that color, thanks

 

Well firstly, why don't you think that the nerf to pyro makes it require more strategy just as you think so for the soldier nerf? It doesn't necessarily concern me nor bother me but the soldier nerf definitely did not "help" soldier mains. Nerfing soldier and leaving pyro like it was together would make soldier way underpowered to defense and pyro the go-to defensive class, and with enough support would eventually want to get banned from matches in that scenario. I don't see entirely why there have been so many complaints towards the nerf as it still does high damage and is still a pretty simple class to use. Of course I can't speak entirely due to myself not being a pyro main, but that just strengthens the fact that even some non pyro mains can use the class effectively. Each suggestion for nerfing or buffing a ctf class is biased in some way. Nobody has a real solution to the circle of advantages and disadvantages other than playing the game and ignoring them, or just not playing at all.

 

To be fair, the soldier nerf really didn't nerf soldier at all.

 

I like the new Pyro more than the old one.

I do disagree about your comments about Pyro. I believe a lot of people had problems with it. I used to be a Pyro main, but I kinda stopped just because it was too easy to use. Killing anything had no reward or merit, anyone could do it. It was easy.

Now that Brawl has come around with some nerfs/tweaks, I've come back to Pyro. It's more fun to use, even if it's less effective. It just isn't stupidly effective like it used to be.

 

I've been playing CTF for a while, and I can tell you, the old Pyro was simply too powerful. The ability to one shot a player without much counter definitely screamed nerf, which the staff team decided to do.

 

When you tryna rip off chaos thread to make yourself relevant

 

What's up with you claiming to have played CTF for a

time?
Sub-500 kills, conveniently missing an archive of their MCPVP stats page, never been on forums despite being a player for a

time, doesn't even recognize the name of the player with the most kills???

Thinks a 1shot kill can be countered easily by anything??? Did you know that pyro used to kill ANY class with one hit?!?(excluding the all powerful medic ofc) I'm not sure where you're getting this

bull**** from because quite frankly, last time I checked, 1 hit < any number of hits.

I mean come on you haven't even seen the occasional necro who has SPIDERS wandering around? I've already personally seen

achieve spiders and you haven't even seen them once. I'm sure the change is listed in the update log where most of your misinformation came from, along with your "community opinions".

How do you even claim to speak for the "majority" of the CTF community with such minimal experience? Do you expect mindless(also unsourced) rambling from a random, inexperienced player who MUST HAS MOAR EZ KILLZ to actually be considered non-troll material?

 

Firstly, I'm chaos, hello Secondly, he's referring to the thread below:
https://www.brawl.com/threads/59571/

It's a class not a kit, just for the record

It was too powerful being able to instakill everything that was alight. People got really sick of it, and frankly the reason medic was given fire resistance was because of the instakill fire in the first place. Evidently that wasn't enough and so it got nerfed. Additionally, the staff confirmed that instakills would be removed, and so this was inevitable. The frenzy on pyro is a good rework, and still makes pyro very powerful without the instakill ability. There are plenty of good pyros who believe the new reworked class is great, but equally there's also a number that don't like it too. My suggestion would be to get used to the new version and see what you think then.

There's a server ideas section where you can post all these ideas, and I'm sure they'll be listened to. As I said the staff confirmed removing instakills so no it's not going to be readded, sorry

I'm sorry you feel that way, but it's not going to be changing back to the way it was.

 

Convenient excuse for missing an archive of your stats page, but acceptable.

And this is supposed to work every time? Playing like such would only cause you to wear down your own health bar due to fire ticks, as any competent pyro would know when the fire times out, easily allowing them enough time draw the bow back in preparation to light you on fire, forcing you to keep retreating or face being 1 shot. You can't even run from them due to the fire ticks, and any competent pyro could be able to land 1 hit. Yes, strafing works, but it only works to a certain degree. You can avoid 1, 2, 3, or 4 hits, but that 5th hit will one shot you. And it doesn't even matter that you have steak, because you die instantly. The pyro? oh sure he's just got 5 steak that he can keep using, no biggie.

indicates speaking for the majority.

indicates speaking for the majority

Nowhere did I say you spoke "to the majority of the CTF community", because that is practically impossible. If you would look closer, I stated that you are under qualified to speak for the majority of the CTF community.

If you were expecting a civilized discussion on a block game's forum, I kindly ask for you to merely look at YouTube's comment section. Do you see a civilized discussion there?
You are inexperienced.
https://www.brawl.com/MPSStatsCTF.php?player=pandawee
Between September of last year, and today, you have played a collective 62 games of CTF(counting minimal time played). This is a time-span of 10 months, with an average of 6 games a month. Since stats were tracked, you have played 578 minutes(according to your player profile), which is less than 10 hours. Given that adjusting to new changes in a game takes quite some time, and that you've only been "active" since the 18th(being generous here), you are still extremely inexperienced. 10 hours to adjust to a plethora of changes is nowhere near enough time. For this very reason League of Legends's esports league is kept a full patch update behind, because even a few days is still nowhere enough time to adjust to the changes. You may feel "experienced" but I assure you, no one can adjust to changes in gameplay in a mere 10 hours(once again, being generous with game time, and not accounting for the fact that updates did occur in the middle of stats tracking).
Now if you were truly experienced in CTF, I'd just ask you the question of how what type of damage does the frenzy activation do, and how much is the output of said frenzy, along with the burn time of said frenzy. Along with that I'd like a list of damage received per normal hit from at least 4 different classes. Given that you seem to be "experienced" enough to demand a reversion in Pyro's current state, you should definitely know all of this information. I mean, Pyro's only your

If you by some chance cannot answer these, you suffer from a lack of experience. An experienced player can tell by the damage received what class is dealing damage to them, because they are used to the damage taken per hit from said class.

I'm sure a lot of people care about bringing back old pyro. I mean, this is only the first time I've ever seen a forum thread on the topic. I'm sure if there was community support for this idea, the revert Pyro "majority" camp wouldn't dare to voice their opinion lest the nerf Pyro "minority" camp take their anger out on them.
If so many people "agree" with you, why does a poll not exist on this thread to take anonymous input? Why hasn't a thread been made before? Why aren't people with some level of popularity supporting the idea? Why hasn't anyone actually supported this idea besides surprise another low overall gametime player? How have you obtained so many "player opinions" with such pitiful game time? All of these factors indicate that there is little to no community support for this idea.
Yes, people who make mistakes aren't "inexperienced". Everyone makes mistakes. But your pitiful game time, combined with very little forum activity, along with general missing information adds up to be a very convincing counterargument to your claim of experience.

 

People feeling their inner Donald Trump with these walls of text.

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please don't hurt me I just wanted to see how that would go ;-;