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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by SoMuchWinning, Nov 9, 2016.

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  1. ReubenS

    ReubenS Well-Known Member

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    Ah, politics on Minecraft forums
     
  2. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    I don't feel the need to argue any further because it will lead to nowhere.
     
  3. sjuka_legogubbar

    sjuka_legogubbar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Russia did invade Ukraine...
    Tell me why I saw news about this for a half year on TV (and other news). They took over Crimea.

    "Crimea was formally absorbed into Russia on 18 March"(2015)

    That is what BBC wrote about it (more ofc). I would call that an invasion, they even moved the border.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31796226


    They did also invade in Syria. But not against the government. So in Syria we have The government, ISIS and Civils. And russia killed over 2000 civils (aiming for hospitals and schools).
    https://www.google.se/amp/s/amp.the...civilians-in-six-months?0p19G=e?client=safari
     
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  4. Hitchens

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    It is factually innacurate to say that Russia invaded Ukraine.

    The general rule in global affairs is that the weak suffer what they must (the same rules seems to apply quite well on internal matters as well).

    It is indeed true that russia (and the sovjet union) has done some acts we consider evil. The same is true for the united states. But the much greater power the us have always had (where was the most conflicts in the cold war? And how was the only major conflict close to the us, namely cuban missile crisis handled?), have granted them the ability to do much more harm. And harm have they done.

    What @SquishyCalvin said about syria is true. And i cant really see how talking about ukraine helps your point in any way @sjuka_legogubbar
     
  5. sjuka_legogubbar

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    What is my point then...? I thought of just correcting hos wrongs. Oh and sorry for puting the same link twice :C Edited it now (Wops xD)
    He did say that Russia had not yet done anything to Ukraine and just built up troops at the border, which is false because of what I already said. Invaded might be wrong but they havent stayed outside of the country (and I would call that an invasion of Crimea.)

    ... Russia had troops (mainly airforce) inside of Syria that killed civilians.
     
  6. Hitchens

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    You actually edited your post... thats cheap...

    You completely changed what you said after we critized it. Have some disrespect from me.
     
  7. sjuka_legogubbar

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    I wrote in the later post that I accidently put the wrong link... lol
     
  8. Hitchens

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    You changed that syria thing too didnt you? I did actually read your post before i responded to it you see..
     
  9. sjuka_legogubbar

    sjuka_legogubbar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    I did not change anything but the link
     
  10. Hitchens

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    I will doubt it no matter what evidence you present me.... lol we have a disagreement that there isnt a point in arguing about. Pm me if you are intereste in debetaing the question wether you did edit or not any further :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  11. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    This is what I hate. When people don't use logic.

    Clinton was a crook. She sent 30,000 emails on an illegal email account. She wanted to raise taxes,
    fewer jobs, more crime, etc.

    Trump was the best option imo. Nobody wanted a female obama.
     
  12. Hitchens

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    I hate when people say they hate when people dont use logic and then dont use it themselves..

    How the (not going to get another warning for swearing here lol) can your brain think (does it?) That clinton wants fewer jobs?

    This isnt offencive plz dont ban me
     
  13. percnowitizki

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    It was a typo idiot.
     
  14. Hitchens

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    Was this also a typo?
     
  15. percnowitizki

    percnowitizki Well-Known Member

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    No. You generally offended me. Am i supposed to be mad? Yeah.
     
  16. keats07

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    Please don't swear man!
     
  17. Hitchens

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    Dont worry, i wont
     
  18. PorkChops30

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    You say to be logical but then read your post. Obviously a person who served the country for 30 years and ran for president would want higher crime and less jobs. No logic.

    Yes. Trump supporters did not stop after everything he did, they will not listen to reason now. No point of tellling them they ****ed up. They will see for themselves when our economy goes into depression.
     
  19. BAWSS5

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    She's been a huge influence towards sending the United States towards most of if not all of the economically devastating wars the U.S. was involved in, which is part of the biggest chunk of change contributing to the 10+trillion dollars in debt the U.S. is in, money that could have and should be put towards the betterment of the U.S.


    I'm sorry, Trump supporters? I don't know if you've noticed but there are few people here who are actively supporting Trump. Learn to read an argument please.

    Also I notice my question hasn't been answered: how old are you guys?
     
  20. Hitchens

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    The ecomic depression will come no matter what. So Clinton is in a sence lucky - The depression will be president Trumps problem, not president Clintons.
     
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