Idea #MakeElfGreatAgain

i mean personally i can play elf just fine the way it is and multiple other ppl can i dont think we should buff it to help other ppl get better and jes i know that was not the focal point of this thread but nonetheless it would do so

 

Some of the specific ideas in this thread are a little iffy (resistance II for 15-20 seconds is too long) but on the whole I like it. Let's Make Elf Great Again!

 

I don't think all of these ideas should be added but around 30% should. Good ideas though.

 

This wasn't thought out very well. Looks like you just spit out a bunch of random ideas without considering how it'd effect the overall gameplay. Lets go over it shall we.

Healing Method 1: There have already been suggestions and ideas about water element regenerating people. I thought it was a good suggestion too until I though about it some more. The water element buffs anyone in a 4x4 area of where the arrow landed. Each player would then get regen 1 for 8 seconds and resistance for 15-20 seconds per shot. So try getting past a defense that is constantly being spammed health and a damage resistant constantly, then combine that with they are most likely buffed by a chemist aswell. The arrow takes about 2-3 seconds to recharge which is faaar less than the effect given out. You regenerate arrows faster than you shoot them out, giving off infinite regen and resistance to entire groups of people.

Healing Method 2: No, no no. I don't think any class should have an infinite health pool and Elf is no exception. The shield is probably the strongest aspect of Elf (maybe after the wind element) The ability to completely deflect any types of projectiles is a very strong ability. The shield is perfectly fine imo other than the bugs it has with not deflecting some types of projectiles or not working entirely. Fix those and the shield would be perfect.

Healing Method 3: It's an alright trade-off to give up mana for health, but it again, gives the elf an infinite health pool. It'd be pretty powerful in a capping aspect because the regen from it would heal over any flag poison and the occassional hit. Combine that with a medic and wind element and the elf would be very difficult to recover off of.

All in all I think Elf's healthpool is fine as is. Its squishy nature is made up for it's incredible mobility and array of elements that can be combined to do massive damage.

Combining Elements
I thought the idea of combining elements would be a pretty badass addition, but it would make the class too complicated. It's best for it to be kept somewhat simple in the aspect of not memorizing every combination of elements. That and it'd probably take forever to code and we don't have a coder right now.

Speed boost when in air
That would be highly abusable. I can think of 3 different ways I would personally abuse that. Elf's wind element makes it the most versatile class when it comes to mobilty. Ninja is restricted to vertical and horizontal, soldier is restricted to vertical, but elf can go up, down, left, right, do corkscrews and somersaults, ect. It can go in any direction in any given time as long as it has the arrows for it.

Arrow regeneration
Method 1: I think the regeneration rate of arrows is pretty good. It punishes you for using too many arrows too quickly by leaving you incredibly vulnerable.
Method 2: I actually really like this idea. +1 on this.

Spamming elements
1. No. This would be the reverse of archer bowspamming. You'd be nearly kept in place by a earth spamming elf taking constant damage from the element. The earth element stops players completely, so half would cut their speed by half. Assuming this still does the regular damage of a normal earth since you didn't specify this would be incredibly annoying and even worse than current earth spammers.
2. I assume you mean the wind arrows will actually push players when directly shot? If so then yea this needs to be added. I suggested it quite a few times but since we don't have a coder it wont happen anytime soon. I think this is a bug anyway, because when you don't hit directly the arrows work fine.
3. I don't think it's needed. Pure element is pretty strong as is.

Don't buff the water element to resistance 2. I already had a few discussions with it but I'll explain it again. Let's used a buffed heavy for example. Try to kill a buffed heavy with strength and speed from a chemist while being spammed regen and resistance 2 from a nearby elf. Now take that scenario and put it into an entire flagrooms defense. It would be ridiculously OP. The resistance effect right now cuts damage by half it seems so doubling it would probably reduce the damage by atleast 75% I do agree that the duration needs a buff. I think 15 seconds should work.

 

How long did this take?!

 

lol like 8 mins

 

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how fast do you type :3

 

YESSS Elf needs a buff. It is one of the least used kits because of its counterparts are weakened forms of soldier and archer. I believe that if it was the way it was before the nerf, it will still be amazing!

Also fashionista4buff2016

 

Was Elf ever great in the first place? (imo it's ok)

 

Lots of the ideas sound good, but elf is already op by 1-shoting enemies... "How", you say? By using the wind element of course! Just pull back the bow, aim somewhere underneath a few blocks of the enemy, AND FIRE! The poor guy is gonna go flying around up to 14-2# blocks. Or just launch 'em into the void or off a cliff. :3