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"Nerf" ninja (not like the other nerf suggestions)

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Knaber, Dec 22, 2016.

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Good idea yeh, meh or neh?

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  2. Meh

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  3. Neh

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  1. Codebastian

    Codebastian Well-Known Member

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    Lol
     
  2. minecraftnoob999

    minecraftnoob999 Well-Known Member

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    Shut up
     
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  3. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    Real ninjas are stealthy and mobile. They're able to get in, do their job, and get out swiftly. A Ninja in-game is, and should be, the same way. If you take away the ender pearl or their speed for a few seconds when they respawn, it takes away Ninja's asset: mobility. The Ninja's lack of armor is made up for with their invisibility and mobility.

    I, myself, am a Mage player. I understand the pain Ninja's cause to us. Mage is not a counter to Ninja. A Mage has a slim chance of surviving a fight with more than one Ninja. However, I don't think that anything should be done to change Ninja's mobility on account of Mage and Elf having problems surviving a Ninja.

    CrossBoone's suggestion is a great one. If you're having problems fighting a Ninja while playing Elf or Mage, switch to something with more armor; Heavy, Necro, or Soldier.
     
  4. Knaber

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    Back before they nerfed the fire-rate

    "Necro"
     
  5. _Enderfire1602

    _Enderfire1602 Well-Known Member

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    This i agree

    the rest......
    what?
     
  6. RaZeragon

    RaZeragon TC Co-Leader | Catgirl Enthusiast

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    Maybe I'm just being dumb and forgetting, but I don't remember mage having it's fire-rate decreased. However, it's range was decreased, if that's what you mean. If anything, I don't really remember any significant changed to mage since it has been added, other than maybe a change on the level of regeneration.

    As useless as it may be, necro does have very good armor in comparison with the rest of the game.

    Edit - We shouldn't severely nerf ninja just because you get annoyed when it counters a class you play
     
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  7. Knaber

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    Its not mainly the fact that it counters, the main thing is that whenever you take flag, you can kill incomming ninjas 2-3 times and they just come back *poof* *poof* *poof* .... oh well, what to do... (and this is while playing any class)
     
  8. LeDoener

    LeDoener Active Member

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    give ninja a ironsword with sharp 3 or a diamondsword with sharp 2. who's idea was goldsword with sharp 5?
    [goldsword with sharp 5 has 10,25 damage points,
    goldsword with sharp 4 only 9 damage points,
    ironsword with sharp 3 has 9,75 damage points.
    diamondsword with sharp 2 has 9,5 damage points]
    pickup time bit longer. more reaction time if ninja trys to steal.
    if ninja has the flag => 3,5-4,0 hearts damage per teleportation
    Best idea. stop trying to destroy ninja completely
     
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  9. Knaber

    Knaber Well-Known Member

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    Probably because its easier to adjust the damage with a lower base damage, the jump in damage per hit from a diamond sword per shap-level is greater than the jump in damage per hit between sharpness levels. I think this is why....
    Also, texturepacks...
     
  10. LeDoener

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    Then give ninja sharp 4. Sharp 5 is to op for the lowarmor classes
     
  11. GalaThundR

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    Ninja is meant to kill low armored classes.
     
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  12. LeDoener

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    ye but not with 2 hits
     
  13. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    These low armor classes kill ninja in 2 hits, I dun see what the problem is
     
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  14. LeDoener

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    Which low armor class can kill a ninja with 2 hits? pyro? assassin? medic? Archer? mage? elf? engineer? lol
     
  15. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    All of the above (-mage)
     
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  16. Knaber

    Knaber Well-Known Member

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    (+mage)
     
  17. LeDoener

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  18. DeadRhos

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    Lol what? Anything with steak can take out a ninja if the player is good enough
     
  19. ACE_BLUE2

    ACE_BLUE2 Sup'

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    Actually ninja 3 shots mages.
     
  20. EmperorTrump45

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    Pyro can two shot people. Archer can one shot people. Dwarf can destroy anything at level 10. Why are we concerned about Ninjas, who have no armor and little sustain, being able to (sometimes) kill low armor enemies without dying over and over again?
     
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