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Player problems in CTF

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Conviction_, Jan 1, 2017.

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Old CTF vs. New CTF

  1. Old CTF

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  2. New CTF

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    20.0%
  3. Just let me play CTF

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  1. Conviction_

    Conviction_ Active Member

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    CTF is growing in players every day... but some are also leaving. This seems to be because they are not happy with the recent changes. Necro has been a very hated kit for a long time until the new update. This has encourages people to play Necro witch then leads to there being to many zombies and people tend to complaint about there being to many minions.
    Ninja capping has become a problem too: because people believe it's ruining the game and... makes people ticked witch can lead to chat problems and drama between players.
    I hope they bring back the old CTF! ~ _Divined

    #bringbackthewool
     
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  2. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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  3. Conviction_

    Conviction_ Active Member

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    Same thing
     
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  4. Xelia_

    Xelia_ (ノ^ヮ^)ノ *:・゚✧

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    When things aren't balanced, people complain. When we fix things, some people will complain because they won't like the fix. You can't please everyone, but not changing anything really isn't the answer.
     
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  5. Nakatago

    Nakatago Well-Known Member

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    I can't help but complain about this response :///
     
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  6. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I haven't seen any complaints about there being too many mobs since the new necro update. Either way, the increase of necros is only temporary, eventually people will go back to playing the classes they usually play, excluding a few.

    As for ninja capping, this has been an issue ever since the class was added to the game. In fact, if we were to 'bring back old CTF', we'd re-add instacapping, which makes the situation even worse. Although ninja capping can be annoying, its better now than it was before.
     
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  7. BuIIy

    BuIIy Active Member

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    Ppl seem more annoyed about ninja capping now then before when u cud instacap lol
     
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  8. lnformative

    lnformative Well-Known Member

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    oh boy here we go

    Maps: The new maps are trash, most of them aren't even properly symmetrical. The buildings in the new maps are too complex and distract you from the game as you try to work you're way around the map. We need simplistic maps like Blackout that are easy to move around on, and have a balanced gameplay.

    Classes: This might be a long one. Every attempt we've ever made to fix a class has always made something worse, the only class that I think was ever properly fixed was engineer. That used to be the thing everybody hated, but now you never here anything about the class, therefore it's fixed. Chemist however, has always been an issue. Potspam is sort of fixed, but not really because I find myself trying to pot but can't because I've used to many. For example, most classes I use sword 80% of the time, then maybe a few damage and poison evenly spread out. But sometimes in a fight with more than one opponent I use a little more and then just drop because I can't heal. So therefore, the class limits you to the point where you can't deal equal damage to your opponent as your taking and heal at the same time. Medic is basically useless since the sharp on the sword is gone. Ninja I think is better but the blindness is horrible imo. Soldier is one of the only balanced combat classes now that the wall spam issue has been fixed. But I still think that it should be thoroughly thought over like every other class. Mage is very controvertial and I won't say to much of my opinion but I'll state some observations I've made. The spell spamming seems to be a huge complaint to people, also why the **** can it infinitely heal and no other class can? I've noticed that the freeze spell can be really glitchy in terms of returning its surroundings back to normal when the ice is deleted. Elf was just a band aid to keep people happy for a little, so it could be improved a hell of a lot. Now heavy is ****ed no doubt, the crits make it worse too, if someone can w tap then you're screwed because they have the most armor and damage output in terms of vanilla Mineman and no server mods.

    Community: We should stop being so stubborn and in-mature about things. Not to mention the amount of salt here, y'all just need to chill out and play the game for fun :grinning:

    Staff: I'm not going to say you're doing nothing, because hackers are getting banned and people are getting muted, so gg on that one, but in terms of taking leader ship of ideas brought to the table, I think you guys could do a little better.

    Conclusions: This game is a complete mess, so we all need to work together to fix it, which will be tough but I think we can do it. Also, if you have an idea, DO NOT BE SHY, bring it up to the table. You never know if people will like it or not. One thing that I should also mention is that maybe we could try to get a beta server and a dev to just write the code for the ideas people pitch and then decide because I think it'd be better to make decisions based on functionality, and not just theory, sure theory is important. But as we all know, life can do weird things and our theories may be the complete opposite of reality.

    So I think as a community, our 2017 goal should be to work together as a group and help make the game better, because 1 person can't do all the work, life doesn't work like that. We all need jobs, so some people critique, some people rework, some people might voluntarily write code for ideas so we can test them, and then some people will lead and organize what's going on.

    #WECANDOITMCCTF2017
     
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  9. HaHaGetLost

    HaHaGetLost I hope one day you choke on the s*** you talk.

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    If u vote new ctf ur messed up
     
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  10. ACE_BLUE2

    ACE_BLUE2 Sup'

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    We should probably wait until new ctf is finished before we start comparing >_<
     
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  11. Claod

    Claod Well-Known Member

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    I agree that CTF is losing players, but bringing back the old CTF won't solve any problems. That would just make it worse because CTF has already come so far and reverting the changes would just make the community's effort go to waste. And you could say it would make old players feel that sense of nostalgia, but it isn't worth it because more new players would lose interest then ever. We need to actually focus on improving the game instead of looking at the past.

    But yes, wool is better then banner, that I can agree. And instead of looking at something minor and unimportant like ninja capping (Ducksfan101 already made a thread on this btw), we should pay attention the classes that are hugely messed up. For example, there's dwarf, archer, mage, and elf, all classes with barely any changes since first being introduced. And I know these classes look fine, but the community has over 1,000 posts in the server ideas section! This clearly shows how bad the situation is with CTF.

    CTF has been around for a while now, and it'd be a bad idea to revert it back to it's old times. We need to focus on the problems that are urgent, or else CTF will die (not that it already is lol)
     
  12. _NinjaStar

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    I agree that it would be logical to stop ninja capping. But in the end, how does a ninja fairly cap w/o an enderpearl? And as for necro, its a new class ppl want to try it out, it will soon die down as a mediocre class. As for ninja its the defenders job to keep an eye on the flag. You can have the tick longer, but i don't see why it should stop since some defenders are very hard to penetrate. seems fair to me.
     
  13. BAWSS5

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    In what fantasy world is CTF growing?
     
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