Turtling

It works for exactly 14 minutes from what I can tell

 

I don't see how this would be so bad. Im not on a team but many times I'm offense in a regular game and I'd find it impossible to cap because of the crazy defense. So then I take a break and defend, or turtle I guess. After some time (4-5 minutes?), the other teams defense gets bored and lazy and I go back to offense and I can walk in and walk out easily and cap. So maybe this doesnt apply to CTF matches but it definitly helps in regular CTF games. In general, any type of suprise attack is useful, and just wave upon wave of attacks are predictable

 

I'm not a fan of turtling myself. The past few times it has been used in a match it's resulted in a map loss for the practitioner. In the case of the match yesterday, it actually cost the them the entire match. Team matches are not games of regular CTF, if they tie it doesn't get decided by numbers of kills. As much as 1 team can turtle, another team can easily just send more on offense, and if they were to get out there's not a high chance of counterstealing before a cap is made. That's of course in addition to the fact it's frowned upon. I did hear at one point that if the staff were to start seeing turtling in matches they'd make a rule against it. If that is the case I'd really like to see something like that is implemented. It doesn't demonstrate ability (let's just send everyone on defense, they can't capture if we do that!), it's annoying to play against, boring to watch, and as we've seen it's not even really a good tactic. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary of course, and there's definitely a case to be made why a rule like that needs to be implemented if the tactic has been shown so far to be pretty useless.

@Claod it's quite different in a CTF match to regular CTF. I doubt you'd be able to get a surprise attack off even whist employing that strategy. Teams tend to know what is going on in a match and where, especially the midfield players.

@mh__ True, but 14 minutes of a 20 minute game, and you couldn't countercap in the last 6, meaning you lost the map and match. Turtling can stall the enemy (especially if they're slow to realise what's going on anyway) but it won't necessarily stop them.

 

It works for exactly 14 minutes from what I can tell

 

Turtleling is a risky strat that we used since we were down 1 to 2 players on a pretty defensive heavy map and it worked for the majority of the map and gave us a better chance at winning (since we would've won with a tie) than if we tried to play regularly down a player/2, if I had to do it over again trying to win that match the only thing I would change is how we turtled/what classes we used.

Also my last comment was just a joke

 

People have different perspectives as to what is considered cheap, I for one think assassins hiding behind corners is a really cheap way of playing the class. Just a thought from the other side.

 

Just sharing an opinion, same as you.

 

Turtling can be an effective strategy in order to maintain a lead gained over a difficult to beat opponent. However, turtling takes a very significant amount of skill on part of the defenders. This is because in generic turtling, you have 0 offence, generally very minimal midfield presence, and all of the remaining members on defense. All you need to break a turtling team's defense is one good distraction to create one good opening.

Once that is exploited, because of the lack of sufficient midfield presence and the absence of an offence to pressure the flag carrier to take an unconventional route easier to recover on, its essentially a free ride back to base. While turtling can be and generally is an effective strategy, it will always be overcome by a competent, persistent team.

 

Turtles are cute

 

turtling works if u have a lot of roaming defense. that way if the other team uses a lot of offense to counter the turtling and leaves not a lot of defense u can send ur roaming to try and cap, which will force their offense to go back and defend or they will probs concede a cap cuz not a lot of def. if the other team keeps their defense then the roaming can just roam and not bother trying to cap, which should make defending a lot easier cuz of big numbers on def

 

Imagine turtling and failing haha

 

yeah xdddd

 

I'd say the strategy of getting 1 cap and sending everyone on defense is a poor strategy. However, buffing one's defense in response to the enemy's increased offense is a logical move. Of course, one can't have absolutely zero offense and midfield presence, then the opposition is encouraged to throw everything at the defenders, which should be avoided since most usual defensive classes are light armor and easy to defeat when overwhelmed.

 

It works for exactly 14 minutes from what I can tell