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Idea Class Idea: Horseman (With A Poll, Sorry xD)

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by TheAura21, Mar 4, 2017.

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Good idea or not?

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  1. TheAura21

    TheAura21 Member

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    Forgot to put a poll on the last one, my apologies.

    Seen a bunch of cool unique skills that are already implemented into the game - reviving zombies, sentry guns, awesome stuff. But one thing that hasn't been used is a horse. It might be a cool addition to the game if done in the right way. This is just an idea, and it probably wont be used but oh well, may as well try.

    Armor
    Leather Helmet (Grey)
    Chain Chestplate
    Chain Leggings
    Leather Boots (Grey)

    Items
    Iron Sword
    4 Steak

    Ability
    -Gain XP by damaging players (Like Necro, but takes 2.5x more damage to fill the bar). Once XP bar is full, right-click with the sword in order to activate Cavalry Mode (gain a Horse Spawn Egg and Sharpness I Sword Enchant). Now wreak havoc. >:grinning:
    -Horse spawned will always have highest possible horse health but speed limited to 6 blocks per second and jump height limited to 2

    -BEWARE - THERE IS NO WAY OF HEALING YOUR HORSE OR GETTING OFF AND ONCE YOUR HORSE DIES, YOU LOSE CAVALRY MODE!

    If you've got any suggestions to making this less OP if it already is then go ahead and say, just don't be a douche about it.
     
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  2. Nateshadow007

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    I like the idea, best of luck with it though!:grinning: You'll need it
     
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  3. TheAura21

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    Thank you! I'm gonna have to nerf it a little bit though.
     
  4. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Seems okay, but horse PvP isn't incredibly appealing to people who use melee weapons. It's just too hard to hit people consistently. The only place I feel horse PvP is implemented correctly is Wild West, solely because of the guns.

    Honestly though, the class would be a great target for archers and their headshots. The class is well thought, but does it have any ideas/abilities past just the horse?
     
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  5. TheAura21

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    Thanks for your feedback. Well if the horse is present then you're in Cavalry Mode which gives your sword a Sharpness I boost and its already Iron so that's even more damage. I do understand what you mean about the horse PvP though, in fact on another thread someone was saying that the tools do too much damage but the reason I made the damage high was because of how hard it is to hit people on a horse. I may add an extra ability but I dont want it to be too OP so I'll hold off for now.
     
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  6. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    That seems good. Another idea would be to give the class a bow, but that might seem too op.

    On a side note, how many pieces of steak does the class have?
     
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    I vote yes, mostly for creativity XD
     
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    Interesting idea but may have some flaws..

    1. What is the speed of the horse? Someone could easily pick up the flag, race across the map in 10-15 seconds, and easily cap. I think this would be ok if the horse is slow, but still could be op.

    2. Jump of the horse. Someone holding the flag could easily use their jump to get to places they couldn't otherwise. Would the jump of the horse be limited to 1 or 2 blocks? Again managable but also op.

    3. Lag. I know from experience from playing Wild West, that horse pvp can be extremely laggy, not just for the person on the horse, but for the person not on the horse as well. If there are on average 5-10 people running around on a horse a game, this might cause a lot of lag, and make the game unplayable.

    I like this idea but it definitely needs to be managed in terms of what capabilities the horse has.
     
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  9. TheAura21

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    Thank you for your feedback. The speed of the horse is something that I'm trying to figure out. I don't want it to be too fast and make easy caps but I also dont want it to be too slow to get sniped by Archers and wrecked by ninjas. Possibly 6 blocks per second? I'll have to do some speed tests.

    Jump height limited to 2 blocks, we wouldnt want a Soldier Class on a horse type thing. XD

    Lag is another issue, thats why I kept its abilities simple other than the horse. I'd assume there may be ways to get around the lag issue though and it may not actually be as CPU-intensive as Wild West.

    4 Steak because the class lacks much of a threat until in Cavalry Mode.

    Strengths
    -High-DMG Class with increased Mobility
    -Versatile (can be used to rush opponent's bases, or stay at the mid-ground and prevent opponents from reaching home)

    Weaknesses
    -Relatively low-protection
    -Big easy target for Archers and Ninjas
    -Once Cavalry Mode is over (horse is dead), class loses its major threat until the XP bar is once again full.
     
  10. Pat_The_Trick

    Pat_The_Trick Well-Known Member

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    Too OP, basically a buffed Pyro on a horse, nuff said
     
  11. TheAura21

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    Pyro's set people on fire using flint and steel, have arrows which also set people on fire, and use a diamond axe which supercharges. How on Earth is this class a Pyro on a horse? If anything, a Pyro is this class' main weakness.
     
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  12. kittenlovers

    kittenlovers Active Member

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    Isnt a horse going to be a huge target for archers? Besides that and the fact that the rider has difficulties comboing I see no problum with this idea.
     
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  13. Pat_The_Trick

    Pat_The_Trick Well-Known Member

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    No it's op, better armour, sharp 1 sword is better than setting some1 on fire to deal 2x dmg and increased armor
     
  14. TheAura21

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    Exactly, thats why I think its not too strong, all it takes is an accurate Archer/Pyro. I gave it a little bit of protection and damage to account for the difficulty of Horse PvP.

    A DIAMOND AXE. Plus you need to actually fill the XP bar first, which takes 2.5x longer than it does for a Necro, by then you could be dead. The Sharpness I and Leather/Chain Armor is to account for the difficulty of Horse PvP.
     
  15. kittenlovers

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    So the armor is a handicap/replacement for skill? Id say give the horse speed 1 and decrease armor.
     
  16. Pat_The_Trick

    Pat_The_Trick Well-Known Member

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    Yeah and horses would ruin the game, everyone would use the horse and it'd be so hard to die. Also too OP for caps: You get off your horse and hide it round a corner. Steal a flag and jump onto your horse. GG even an assassin can't catch you
     
  17. kittenlovers

    kittenlovers Active Member

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    Also, in kit brawl there is a horseman class. Although it seems cool at first, at closer inspection you realize that
    A) Its not that fun. Main strategy with the horse is to try to get 2 hits back away and repeat.
    B) Strafes are definitely harder on horse which causes you to be a easy target to those aiming to kill you
    C) Everyone wants to try to kill the player that has a unique class. On top of this, horseman has a larger hitbox one can target.
    In conclusion the horseman class is a great idea that unfortunately has glaring faults, at least thats just my opinion.
     
  18. Pat_The_Trick

    Pat_The_Trick Well-Known Member

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    Or you back to have larger hitboxes, unless you're thinking of the horse itself
     
  19. kittenlovers

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    Im thinking of the horse. The horse can be killed right?
     
  20. TheAura21

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    Yes the horse can be killed and once it dies the player loses Cavalry Mode.

    It would be pretty tough to hide such a large entity, plus compasses lead you to flags so your point is nulified. Plus their speed is always limited, actually read the post before saying stuff please. Also, I'm pretty sure the devs can configurethe class so that you cant get off the horse, all the problems you list are base off assumption that things are a certain way.

    Horse with speed would be OP in my opinion.
     
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