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Lowering price: Kevlar

Discussion in 'Ideas' started by TheTitaniumTitan, Mar 27, 2017.

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  1. _Karst

    _Karst Well-Known Member

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    Funny to see how a jmod wants to kill ww
     
  2. Eil

    Eil Ex-Raid // Perm. Ban Manager
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    If you haven't been a sheriff, you don't really know what its like, yes you can imagine what it's like, but you never really understand until you've experienced it. Charlotte is not trying to 'kill' WildWest, she has just been a sheriff and knows exactly whats it like, and is constructing an opinion based off her experiences.

    If we look at players like Nafsu, Hitchens - Both quite sheriff within a week or two of being promoted simply due to the reason that they were fed up of getting outnumbered every time, and never winning any fights because of it. May I suggest applying for Sheriff to maybe get a feel for what its like, it may help you to see this from our perspective.
     
  3. Hitchens

    Hitchens Well-Known Member

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    Hah lets see, what would be a good argument for this? Hey, lets say its gona be said so nobody can use it!
    Hah you couldnt be mre wrong. @SoCool21 can confirm. I got demoted. I actually won tons of figts as sheriff without kevlar. The fact that i had free gear allowed me to do risky but damaging attacks.

    So from my persoective as a sheriff, my kit was strong enough. And the sheriff kit is stronger now with the extra pots.
     
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  4. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    I actually laughed when I read this. Why should it be 5k? Might as well make an NPC where bandits can buy full sets in bulk for 5k too!
     
  5. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    Um guys the 5k was clearly a joke... She added the ":grinning:" for comedic relief to show it was sarcastic. :v
     
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  6. DarkTitan_

    DarkTitan_ Ex War and News Manager

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    I've literally never bought Kevlar (might be why I suck in fights) but I think it's because we don't make enough money to support that even buying it once a day. I'd say 8-10k would be good.
     
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  8. RioYR

    RioYR Well-Known Member

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    15k however there should be a cooldown on when you can buy it as it would be too over powered
     
  9. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    Well I know it's not reasonable for us to attack when 5 are there, but it is our job.

    You also say that we win most of the time, in my experience, we win very rarely.

    We can't just do a "hard attack" we'll just get 5 shot with the model.

    Why?

    Add it up. 15k per 4 minutes about (how long it takes us to get there and die). Which equals 45k for 12 minutes. :confused:

    That's some quality feedback m8o
     
  10. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    Currently, the only risk for sheriffs is bringing Kevlar. In a sense, the only way sheriffs can potentially lose money is by buying items. Since they aren't forced to buy anything, they generally don't. We should be focusing on giving sheriffs a bigger risk factor rather than benefiting them economically imo.
     
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  11. Hitchens

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    Who tf thinks most sheriffs are buying kevlar for a 1vs5? No, they would buy kevlar when they already have a chance, making it rather unfair at times. So they would essential buy it when they shouldnt, and not buy it when they should. This is a problem with kevlar in general. Lowering the price would certainly not help.

    What needs to be done instead is adding more sheriffs (theres tonns of good applicants), and to counter that a little bit, make sheriffs unable to cuff rogues. This could simply be done by changing things in the handbook.

    There's a few other changes that should be done to the handbook, but they are rather small.
     
  12. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Did I directly state that you win most of the time? No, I did not. I stated that when bandits die, they lose money. You don't lose **** with your free gear every 2 minutes.
     
  13. RioYR

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    It takes around the average tank in wild west 30-40k worth of gear and it takes a long time to process. If there was 2 people same skill but one was Kevlar the other diamond the Kevlar would definitely win.
     
  14. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    But you guys don't die often. ;(

    Why do you have to turn everything into a flame war? There's no need to hate me for wanting something. O_O
     
  15. RioYR

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    Because there are more of us. Fight fire with fire, instead of complaining about Kevlar how about complaining about less sheriffs
     
  16. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    Your telling me that if someone flames at me, I should flame back. No.
     
  17. SoullessAngel_

    SoullessAngel_ Ayo why you lookin

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    Because we've built our playstyles on how to win fights defensively, and know how to stay alive so we don't have to pay those ridiculously high bails.
    Because you never seem to listen to anything anyone else says unless it aligns with your own opinion. You haven't even stopped to consider anything, and it's the only way to get through to you.
     
  18. RioYR

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    ?
     
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  19. TheTitaniumTitan

    TheTitaniumTitan Ex WW JMod and Wiki Team member. Bring back WW!

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    I consider all of it, some if it flat out doesn't make sense.
     
  20. Arcane

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    Now I as much as I have played WW and have fought against only a couple of kevlar'd sheriffs they most certainly have a big advantage. They can tank 3 t-g headshots and the 4th will kill and they can tank 2 full on sawed head shots and survive. Now lets picture every sheriff having this sort of tanking capabilities. The fights would sway so much in a sheriffs favor that bandits would just hq the second they see a sheriff come on. Now I have never been a sheriff, but I can understand how it feels to be outnumbered and such, but I've seen Eil take on 5v1's and kill about 2 before he dies at times. This is mostly cause he played smart and got the bandits into a position where he had the advantage.

    I think sheriffs are fine the way they are in the most part. I think the issues are that not enough sheriffs are ever on to fight against bandits or the sheriffs are hugely disorganized against a bandit team that is organized.

    @charlottethegirl That was way back when diamond gear had full protection and thing was very different. Sort of wished those times would be brought back.
     
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