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Idea CTF Spawn Box Update

Discussion in 'Map Submissions' started by Xelasi, May 16, 2017.

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Should spawn boxes be updated?

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  2. Nah

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  3. Maybe but not these

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  1. Xelasi

    Xelasi Well-Known Member

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    Should we update the design?

    A majority of in CTF spawn signs are outdated, so no matter which one we choose all the spawns need to get fixed at some point.

    @DeZilla did a redesign with doorways moved and better signage space.
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    And Dez tested some color variations.
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    Spreadsheet - current statuses of map submissions as of today, look at all the missing spawn boxes

    The template will be a stonebrick/gray glass version similar to the old one.
    Since all the outdated signage needs to be fixed anyways, I thought this might be a good change.
    I'm helping configure maps right now and would like to see if we can do this. I'll use the old one if I don't get feedback.



    [Go like something on @DeZilla 's made to credit him, sorry for post sniping, I just need quick feedback]
     
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    #1 Xelasi, May 16, 2017
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  2. Miskey

    Miskey Leader of Annihilation | Former Media Manager

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    Yes
     
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  3. scapezar

    scapezar Ex-Ban/Appeal Manager | Ex-Hack Test Manager

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    I think it should be up to the map creator him/herself for changing their spawnbox shape and color (so, yes if only approved by them). If the creator is unavailable I'd rather keep it as the simple, default one we have had (maybe we can freshen it up with minor contour tweaks, nothing fancy with colors though - unless the colors fit the map style really, really well). But yea, we have to update the signs on all of them.
     
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  4. Xelasi

    Xelasi Well-Known Member

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    Already got ya covered.

    I'm more asking about the shape of the new one. The exits are on the sides instead of at the bottom. There is also better space for signage.

    EDIT: Dez permed me, we've got a default look now
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  5. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    I'd say just leave it up to the creators to make/edit the spawnbox to what they want. To update the existing spawnbox signage/information, we'd have to go through and edit every single one manually. The spawnbox looks nice, but I kind of like the openings on the bottom. That's just my personal preference.
     
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  6. Xelasi

    Xelasi Well-Known Member

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    I was figuring no one on current staff wanted to update them manually, so I was going to do the leg work for you guys. There's some world edit wizardry that would make it quick.

    Creators can still edit it however they want. But the way it's been done is that they take a default and reskin it. I'm offering a new default. Do we want a new default or nah?

    And I like the feedback, thank you.
     
  7. GalaThundR

    GalaThundR Mcpvp Veteran

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    I think what we should do is first go back to all the maps with custom spawnboxes and update the signs. Afterwards, change all the maps with the current spawnbox with this version and set it as the new default.
    If the map creator chooses to alter the shape of the spawnbox he can but the updated signs must stay.
    We could also go back and only update the signs on all current spawnboxes and fix the signs on the current default. It would look exactly the same as the current box but with the updated info.
     
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  8. Xelasi

    Xelasi Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, most of the current custom boxes still use the old default box shape and the most efficient way to replace signage is
    1. Fix signage in one default box.
    2. Replace everything except for the signs with air.
    3. //copy. //paste -a
    It would literally just change the corner signs.

    And I was thinking about just copypasting a new box into old maps and readding the map creator.

    For new maps we can give a choice between new box and old box. The newer ones are easier to reskin into custom designs.
     
  9. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    I say offer the choice between the current spawnbox and your proposed one.

    Why go through and change the spawnbox in the old maps?
     
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  10. Xelasi

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    Alrighty I'm gonna go ahead and make a map with both boxes/updated signage and give a crap ton of people access so they can copypaste.


    Keep giving feedback, if someone is super opposed to having more than one choice i'd like to know.

    A crap ton of them still say MCPVP and have MCPVP ranks. They need to be updated anyway. It takes just as much time to put in a new box as it does to update the old box.
     
  11. GalaThundR

    GalaThundR Mcpvp Veteran

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    If you like I can make halloween/christmas varients to it aswell.
     
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  12. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    Ah, I see. I just don't think it's necessary for such old maps that are never played anymore.
     
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  13. Xelasi

    Xelasi Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I meant the ones in rotation.
     
  14. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    That clears up the confusion! I thought you were meaning to change the spawnbox in old maps out of rotation.
     
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  16. DeZilla

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    looks like my spawn boxes is finally geting attention...
     
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  17. Xelasi

    Xelasi Well-Known Member

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    Progress:
    Signage streamlined and updated for new boxes. B0s helped proofread.
    Fewer signs, just as much info, fancy colors.
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    - Players will be able to pick whichever box they prefer, new or classic.
    - Boxes are customizable.
    - Easy copypaste signs are available if only signs need updating.
    - Boxes are pre-configured for sign system maps.

    Map name: CTF Spawn Boxes
    ID: 350850
    I'll be giving build team members and trusted mapmakers access.
    @GalaThundR, I've added you as co-owner since you're active online and helped.
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    #17 Xelasi, May 18, 2017
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  18. EddKrumbs

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    @Xelasi @DeZilla
    These are awesome ! I'm definitely interested in getting these into the game :smile:
     
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  19. redslime

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    please don't remove my favorite mcpvp spawnboxes :frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning::frowning:
     
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  20. JustALizardKing

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    Could I get perm on the spawn box map? @Xelasi
     
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